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We require a soils report on all larger projects, and request a soils report
on all smaller projects.  Additionally we stipulate contractually that
should the owner / owners representative elect not to provide a soils
report, the owner will release us from liability for soils related problems
(with all the usual disclaimers regarding direct liability due to negligence
or E&O).  I believe that soils related issues are second only to water
related issues in construction related litigation.  A proper soils report is
cheap insurance.

Usually when presented with this option the owner will elect to provide a
soils report, typically 90% or more of our projects have soils reports.  I
do not see why we as the engineer should increase our liability exposure to
save a couple thousand dollars for the owner.  If the project budget is that
tight we probably do not want to be involved in the project anyway.

My two cents worth,

Paul Feather
ARCE, Cal Poly SLO
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Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: Requiring soils reports


> Not so! We use 1000psf and only do soil report for larger projects- about
> half of all projects.
>
> Stan Scholl, P.E.
> Laguna Beach, CA
>
> On Wed, 12 Dec 2001 13:14:02 -0800 "George Richards P.E."
> <george(--nospam--at)borm.com> writes:
> > In Calif.  Always a soil report before design.
> >
> > George Richards, ARCE CalPoly SLO
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Albert Meyer [mailto:Ameyer(--nospam--at)martinaia.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 12:14 PM
> > To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> > Subject: Requiring soils reports
> >
> >
> > I'm interested in knowing how many of you require that soils reports
> > be
> > provided prior to the start of a building design, and how many
> > assume soil
> > properties to do foundation design with the caveat that a soils
> > investigation be done prior to the start of construction, and any
> > changes
> > required to the structural plans due to the differences between
> > assumed and
> > actual soil conditions are an additional service.  Thanks in advance
> > for
> > your response.
> >
> > Albert J. Meyer, Jr., P.E.
> > Martin-Espenlaub Engineering
> > Philadelphia PA
> > (215) 665-8570 Tel
> > (215) 561-5064 Fax
> > ameyer(--nospam--at)martinaia.com
> >
> >
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