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Where is the COD, College of the Desert? In which municipality?

Quo Vadis?
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Bob Ross
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Wish" <dennis.wish(--nospam--at)verizon.net>
Date: Thursday, December 13, 2001 5:11 pm
Subject: RE: Engineering Education & Professional Practice

> Neil,
> I had the conversation with my class today and COD (College of the
> Desert) is considered a "Mirror Image" curriculum for Cal-Poly. The
> students who are in the class are completing their first two years at
> COD and expect to enter Cal-Poly to begin their third year.
> My other concerns still stand 8>|
> 
> Dennis S. Wish, PE
> California Professional Engineer
> The Structuralist.Net Information Infrastructure
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Moore [mailto:nmoore(--nospam--at)innercite.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 4:42 PM
> To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> Subject: RE: Engineering Education & Professional Practice
> 
> Dennis:
> 
> I guess you missed my point.  When I talked about a "mirror image"
> curriculum, I was thinking of  the first two years of the Cal Poly
> curriculum being taught at a community college and then directly
> transferable to CP.  I believe West Valley College has this.  
> I also believe that the student had to make some sort of contract with
> the
> schools; maybe someone else can elaborate.  
> 
> I'd also be interested to note how many Cal Poly ARCE's have their
> California S.E.  I'm more interested in the per centage of your
> graduating
> class.  Mine, I believe, is 100%.
> 
> Neil Moore, S.E.
> neil moore and associates
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 04:04 PM 12/12/2001 -0800, you wrote:
> >No, I was not privileged to be around when it was originally set up,
> but
> >the former head of the Architecture department created the curriculum
> >about four to six years ago. With that said, Elementary Structures
> (Arch
> >015) was part of the curriculum. The last instructor was a local
> >architect and after discussions with past students, I discovered that
> >the course could never have transferred. When I started teaching 
> nearly>two years ago, I e-mailed Paul Frattessa (sorry  Paul, I 
> did not have
> >time to seek out the correct spelling of your name as I should) and
> >requested a copy of his class syllabus. He sent it back to me and I
> >discovered how deficient those students had been. The biggest problem
> we...."
> >semester, I have covered almost all of the same work on SLO's 
> syllabus>and am having greater success with the students, but have 
> had to spend
> a
> >great many personal hours making myself available to them without
> charge
> >to the school...... "    and more
> >
> >Dennis S. Wish, PE
> >California Professional Engineer
> >The Structuralist.Net Information Infrastructure
> 
> 
> 
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