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Just seen your post. Try the following web site, they specialise in masonry
support systems and can probably advise.
http://www.ancon.co.uk

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	richard lewis [SMTP:rlewistx(--nospam--at)juno.com]
> Sent:	Monday, January 14, 2002 3:42 PM
> To:	seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> Subject:	Re: Adding brick shelf support to grade beam
>
> I want to thank all those who responded to the email.  Let me clarify the
> situation since some good questions were raised.
>
> First, the building is constructed on moderately expansive clay.  The
> foundation is a drilled pier and grade beam system.  The grade beams have
> void boxes below.
>
> The grading outside the building will change to a lower elevation.  I
> will expose about 3 feet of concrete wall.  We will only be adding enough
> brick to cover this so it will not be a full height wall.
>
> I have a question about using a steel angle attached to the grade beam.
> The angle will have to be buried underground.  Will using a galvanized
> angle with mastic be sufficient for corrosion protection?  Should it be
> encased in concrete somehow?  How about doweling in rebar and pouring a
> grade beam?  Is this just a case of shear friction with the rebar dowels,
> or are there other  forces to consider?
>
> Thanks for your continued insight!
>
> Rich
>
> On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 13:19:51 -0800 (PST) Keith Fix <kefix(--nospam--at)yahoo.com>
> writes:
> > This solution, while acceptable, does not appeal to me.  Angles are
> > visible,
> > and therefore, ugly.  If exposed to water and air, they will
> > eventually rust to
> > failure (though they may outlive the building).
> >
> > But more to the point, I don't quite follow your question.  Is this
> > a wall,
> > full height veneer, wainscot, or what?
> >
> > You may want to create a simple text-drawing.
> >
> > Assuming it is possible to get below grade with the support, you
> > might as well
> > form a ledge with concrete, since you will be drilling into concrete
> > for a
> > support anyway, and could just as easily epoxy rebar as threaded
> > rod.
> >
> > As a separate question, how do you intend to tie the veneer back to
> > the grade
> > beam?  Or am I misunderstanding the question?
> >
> > -Keith Fix, PE
> > -Little Rock, AR
> >
> > --- Davis Parsons <dparsons(--nospam--at)msc-engineers.com> wrote:
> > > richard lewis wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have an existing building where I need to hide the concrete
> > grade beam
> > > > due to changes in exterior grading.  The owner wants to add a
> > short brick
> > > > wall, about 3 feet high in front of it.  The building has a
> > drilled pier
> > > > and grade beam foundation.  I would like suggestions as to how
> > to
> > > > construct the new brick shelf support integral with the existing
> > grade
> > > > beam.
> > >
> > > I have used a galvanized angle fastened to the grade beam with
> > Hilti HVA
> > > fasteners when the grade change does not go below the bottom of
> > the beam. For
> > > additional moisture protection, trowel-on mastic is applied to the
> > angle.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Davis G. Parsons II, PE RA AEI
> > > a practical structural engineer
> > > in Fort Worth, Texas
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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