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Bill,

BTW, I believe the 2002 ACI MCP will be six volumes.  With the addition of
the new ACI 350 documents (the ACI 350 code is several hundred pages
alone), they needed to add another volume.

HTH,

Scott
Ypsilanti, MI


On Thu, 7 Mar 2002 Rick.Drake(--nospam--at)Fluor.com wrote:

>
> I would buy my own copy of AWS D1.1 if it was the same price as the LRFD
> Manual.  That's supply and demand also.
>
> Rick Drake, SE
> Fluor Daniel, Aliso Viejo, CA
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>                     Scott Maxwell
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>                     Please respond        Subject:     Cost of AWS D1.1 (was RE: Backing Bars at CJP...).
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> The AWS code had always (at as far as I can remember) be rather "pricey".
> I suspect that it is partly that pesky little theory that capitalists like
> called the law of supply and demand.  I want to believe that there are
> much fewer copies of AWS D1.1 sold that say the AISC LRFD manuals or the
> ACI 318 code.  Thus, they must charge more to recoop their costs.  Just
> think about your standard size A/E or engineering office...how many of the
> structural engineers there owned their own copy of the AISC manual or the
> 318 code?  And how many of those same engineers owned their own copy of
> AWS D1.1?
>
> HTH,
>
> Scott
> Ypsilanti, MI
>
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>
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Bill Polhemus wrote:
>
> > If I might make a comment that is OFF TOPIC as far as the title of the
> > thread is concerned (but which saves me from creating a whole 'nother
> thread
> > just so I can "rant"):
> >
> > I saw that AWS now has a new edition of D1.1 (02). I am interested in
> > updating my library so I decided to look into ordering it.
> >
> > My gosh, for the "nonmember" that sucker costs almost $400!!!
> >
> > I know we've talked about this from time to time here, but this brings it
> up
> > again: How do these organizations justify this high cost?
> >
> > It seems funny to me that a softcover "trade paperback" version of AWS
> D1.1
> > costs that much yet you can buy the brand new hardcover edition of the
> AISC
> > "Manual of Steel Construction" for less than HALF that amount! In fact
> the
> > member's price for ACI's "Manual of Concrete Practice" is about the same
> > price, and that thing is FIVE VOLUMES! So how does AWS arrive at that
> being
> > a reasonable price?
> >
> > I think AWS D1.1 is a must-have for the basic library but at that price
> I'm
> > going to have to wait till the next "real project" (to quote Stan
> Caldwell)
> > comes along before I can justify the expense!
> >
> >
> >
> > William L. Polhemus, Jr. P.E.
> > Polhemus Engineering Company
> > Katy, TX, USA
> > Phone (281) 492-2251
> > FAX (281) 492-8203
> > email bill(--nospam--at)polhemus.cc
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