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- To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
- Subject: Re: Transfering Software licenses
- From: Juan José Treff De la Mora <jjtreff(--nospam--at)hotmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 10:29:34 -0500
- Cc: gvshwnth(--nospam--at)yahoo.com
Dear Vishwanath,The best of your knowledge is not enough. You can contact Mr. Harri Nurmi with Tekla Oy and ask him if it is legal or not. You will see that if the company that owns the license closes (this is the case) the transfer is authorized.
Since the price is cheaper that a new license bought from Tekla, it makes it atractive to someone to buy it and after a few jobs using the program, pay his maintenance agreement. This will allow the new iser to have version 8 for less money. Tekla of course gets a benefit also because instead of loosing a client because of his retirement, they would gain a new one.
So, the sale is legal, authorized by the license owner (Tekla), by the licensee (my friend) and the point is to have someone else benefit from such an excellent program. If you were interested in the program for free (everything in life has a cost), you should have contacted me in private, so I could giev you my friend's info and you could contact him personally. I don't think that is the case or as I said you would have contacted him directly, I think it was a matter of discussing something with the colleagues without having the complete picture.
Thank you for your attention.
From: G Vishwanath <gvshwnth(--nospam--at)yahoo.com> Reply-To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org> To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org Subject: Transfering Software licenses Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 01:42:56 -0700 (PDT) Ref: Juan J. Treff's post offering to sell his friend's copy of X steel version 5.4 To the best of my knowledge, transer of a software licence is not recognized by Software development companies. I wonder if Tekla will recognize the buyer of of a second hand X steel license as a legal user. I have tried to purchase licenses of Autocad Rel 14 for the organisation I work for. But Autodesk does not sell them any more. They sell only the latest which we don't need and are not willing to pay for. Pirated copies are of course freely available. But they are of no use to me as I work for a Public Limited company, subject to internal and external auditing, and to ethical business practices. Even if you locate the people who have legal licenses of outdated software, and are willing to sell them, the buyer is still considered an unauthorised user. So the transferred copy is not legal. So why would any one bother to "buy" it? There is something definitely unreasonable about this business of software licences. When we can legally buy an old house or a used car, why not old outdated software if it meets the users needs? More people will buy legal licenses of new and latest software if such packages have resale value. True, the developers may wash off their hands from obligations of support, updates etc and the buyer will cheerfully put up with this. But why should such a transaction be considered illegal? No wonder piracy flourishes. Am I missing something here? Best of luck to Juan J Treff's friend in his attempts to sell his old software. The latest version is Xsteel 8.0 and I wonder if any one will purchase version 5.4 if after spending the money the copy is still illegal. It makes better economic sense to get a pirated copy provided one is able to ask his conscience to shut up and is willing to take the risks and be careful not publicise the fact that he possesses a copy. If Juan's friend is unable to "Sell" and is willing to gift it away, I am willing to take his old copy of Steel version 5.4 and use it for educating myself and practice using this package. It will still be considered his property and I will return it to him whenever he asks for it. I will ask for a letter from him stating that he has gifted or lent it to me, to keep myself in the clear legally. (Lawyers may poke a hole in this arrangement too. I don't know) I also will not commercially exploit this gift and will use it personally at home to prepare for the day when the organisation purchases the latest version for commercial use. But of course, Juan's friend will only have to trust me on this. A better idea is for Juan's friend to gift it to some one he knows well instead of a total stranger like me or to a technical educational institution, preferably owned or run by the Government. I am not a detailer myself but I manage a detailing set up in India and I cannot afford the exorbitant cost of this package in India. For the cost of a single license of X steel, we can buy a two bedroom aparment in the city of Bangalore where I live. Regards G Vishwanath Bangalore, India gvshwnth(--nospam--at)yahoo.com
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