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This smells similar to a Nigerian scam insofar as the
ethics are concerned. I would stay from it.

Rajendran


--- Juan José Treff De la Mora <jjtreff(--nospam--at)hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Dear Vishwanath,
> The best of your knowledge is not enough. You can
> contact Mr. Harri Nurmi 
> with Tekla Oy and ask him if it is legal or not. You
> will see that if the 
> company that owns the license closes (this is the
> case) the transfer is 
> authorized.
> 
> Since the price is cheaper that a new license bought
> from Tekla, it makes it 
> atractive to someone to buy it and after a few jobs
> using the program, pay 
> his maintenance agreement. This will allow the new
> iser to have version 8 
> for less money. Tekla of course gets a benefit also
> because instead of 
> loosing a client because of his retirement, they
> would gain a new one.
> 
> So, the sale is legal, authorized by the license
> owner (Tekla), by the 
> licensee (my friend) and the point is to have
> someone else benefit from such 
> an excellent program. If you were interested in the
> program for free 
> (everything in life has a cost), you should have
> contacted me in private, so 
> I could giev you my friend's info and you could
> contact him personally. I 
> don't think that is the case or as I said you would
> have contacted him 
> directly, I think it was a matter of discussing
> something with the 
> colleagues without having the complete picture.
> 
> Thank you for your attention.
> 
> 
> 
> >From: G Vishwanath <gvshwnth(--nospam--at)yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
> >To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> >Subject: Transfering Software licenses
> >Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 01:42:56 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Ref: Juan J. Treff's post offering to sell his
> >friend's copy of X steel version 5.4
> >
> >
> >To the best of my knowledge, transer of a software
> >licence is not recognized by Software development
> >companies.
> >
> >I wonder if Tekla will recognize the buyer of of a
> >second hand X steel license  as a legal user.
> >
> >I have tried to purchase licenses of Autocad Rel 14
> >for the organisation I work for.
> >But Autodesk does not sell them any more.
> >They sell only the latest which we don't need and
> are
> >not willing to pay for.
> >
> >Pirated copies are of course freely available.
> >But they are of no use to me as I work for  a
> Public
> >Limited company, subject to internal and external
> >auditing, and to ethical business practices.
> >
> >Even if you locate the people who have legal
> licenses
> >of outdated software, and are willing to sell them,
> >the buyer is still considered an unauthorised user.
> >
> >So the transferred copy is not legal.
> >
> >So why would any one bother to "buy" it?
> >
> >There is something definitely unreasonable about
> this
> >business of software licences.
> >
> >When we can legally buy an old house or a  used
> car,
> >why not old outdated software if it meets the users
> >needs? More people will buy legal licenses of new
> and
> >latest software if such packages have resale value.
> >
> >
> >True, the developers may wash off their hands from
> >obligations of support, updates etc and the buyer
> will
> >cheerfully put up with this. But why should such a
> >transaction be considered illegal?
> >
> >No wonder piracy flourishes.
> >
> >Am I missing something here?
> >
> >Best of luck to Juan J Treff's friend in his
> attempts
> >to sell his old software. The latest version is
> Xsteel
> >8.0 and I wonder if any one will purchase version
> 5.4
> >if after spending the money the copy is still
> illegal.
> >
> >
> >It makes better economic sense to get a pirated
> copy
> >provided one is able to ask his conscience to shut
> up
> >and is willing to take the risks and be careful not
> >publicise the fact that he possesses a copy.
> >
> >
> >If Juan's friend is unable to "Sell" and is willing
> to
> >gift it away, I am willing to take his old copy of
> >Steel version 5.4 and use it for educating myself
> and
> >practice using this package. It will still be
> >considered his property and I will return it to him
> >whenever he asks for it.
> >
> >I will ask for a letter from him stating that he
> has
> >gifted or lent it to me, to keep myself in the
> clear
> >legally. (Lawyers may poke a hole in this
> arrangement
> >too. I don't know)  I also will not commercially
> >exploit this gift and will use it personally at
> home
> >to prepare for the day when the organisation
> purchases
> >the latest version for commercial use.
> >But of course, Juan's friend will only have to
> trust
> >me on this.
> >
> >A better idea is for Juan's friend to gift it to
> some
> >one he knows well instead of a total stranger like
> me
> >or  to a technical educational institution,
> preferably
> >owned or run by the Government.
> >
> >I am not a detailer myself but I manage a detailing
> >set up in India and I cannot afford the exorbitant
> >cost of this package in India. For the cost of a
> >single license of X steel, we can buy a two bedroom
> >aparment in the city of Bangalore where I live.
> >
> >Regards
> >G Vishwanath
> >Bangalore, India
> >gvshwnth(--nospam--at)yahoo.com
> 
>
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