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Thomas,

I agree that it probably doesn't make sense that an owner thinks the
Fluorogold slide pads are expensive even though the trusses are of
stainless steel...but let me give you a similar perspective from my own
experience.

I am guessing that the reason the owner doesn't mind the cost of the
stainless steel (although they may actually mind it...we are both assuming
that they don't) is that it is a visible "architectural" item, while the
Fluorogold slide pads are invisible to the most if not everyone, thus not
"enhancing" the "pretty factor" and helping in selling value (although no
having the slide bearing connection "seize" and cause a collapse or some
such would certainly reduce the selling value) of the building.

My experience was on a casino.  Overall cost was not a problem...the owner
was willing to spend lots of $$$.  The williness to spend money was
prioritized, however.  The owner was more than willing to spend $300 per
sq ft for finishs in the casino space since that "enhanced" the "pretty
factor", but balked as spending the thousands of dollars necessary to
upgrade the lateral braces that no one would ever see again after
construction.

HTH,

Scott
Ypsilanti, MI


On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 THunt(--nospam--at)absconsulting.com wrote:

> Ken,
> 
> If I understand this right you have a 70 feet long truss with $$$ 
> stainless steel bottom cords and the client is worried about the pennies 
> in the slide plates??.  The Fluorogold slide plates (formally distributed 
> by Furon now Seismic Energy Products) are not that expensive.  Double 
> check the costs, especially compared to the truss, relief on the wall 
> loads, construction, etc.  You may want to contact Merriman Lubrite 
> Company (if they are still in business) for an alternative slide plate 
> design but I think they are even more expensive than Fluorogold.
> 
> Thomas Hunt, S.E.
> ABS Consulting
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Ken Peoples" <kspeoples(--nospam--at)lvta.net>
> 08/14/2002 06:43 AM
> Please respond to seaint
> 
>  
>         To:     "Seaint" <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
>         cc: 
>         Subject:        Fluorogold slide bearing alternatives
> 
> 
> I have a project with 70' long trusses with stainless steel bottom chords. 
>  The vertical reaction is about 20 kips and the trusses will rest on top 
> of existing concrete walls.  I do not know what kind of horizontal load 
> the walls can take as this will be the responisbility of others.  We 
> specified Fluorogold slide bearing plates, but the owner does not want to 
> use them because of the expense.  It has been suggested that we might use 
> a "polished" stainless steel plate assembly.  I do not know the cost 
> difference or what kind of friction factor I could expect to obtain with 
> this system.  I would like to know if any of you have any experience with 
> using this type of system for a sliding connection or if you might suggest 
> other less expensive alternatives to the Fluorogold. 
>  
> Thanks in advance for your help,
>  
> Best regards,
>  
> Ken
>  
>  
> Kenneth S. Peoples, P. E.
> Lehigh Valley Technical Associates
> 1584 Weaversville Road
> Northampton, PA 18067-9039
> Phone: (610) 262-6345
> Fax: (610) 262-8188
> e-mail: kpeoples(--nospam--at)lvta.net
> 
> 


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