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RE: EJCDC Documents (OR: What's The Point Of Even Joining ASCE?)

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Bill

I came to the same conclusion about 18 years ago.

The most compelling argument I've heard for staying an ASCE member is cheap
E&O insurance (dunno if it's any good).

Bill Allen, S.E. (CA #2607)


||-----Original Message-----
||From: Bill Polhemus [mailto:bill(--nospam--at)polhemus.cc]
||Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:58 PM
||To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
||Subject: EJCDC Documents (OR: What's The Point Of Even Joining ASCE?)
||
||
||I am trying to revamp some aspects of my consulting business,
||especially
||liability and contract issues. It's too easy to be lax about
||this, and now
||I've been stiffed on some fees--not much, but it wouldn't
||have happened had
||I been a bit more "anal-retentive" about signed agreements
||before proceeding
||with work.
||
||I've been using some documents that I'd brought with me from
||my last "real"
||job, but they really aren't satisfactory.
||
||Well, I just kind of figured that ASCE would have the Engineers Joint
||Contract Documents Committee (EJCDC) standards on their
||website for members
||to download. After all, ASCE is a charter member of that
||committee, which
||was created to help povide us with better contract documents,
||right? Sounds
||like a core mission for an  org like ASCE, right?
||
||Well, they have the documents, and I can have them, too--if I
||pay them $500.
||
||Sorry, but that is just COMPLETE BULL****! About the only
||good I can see
||coming out of ASCE is that you get their little
||magazine--which is geared
||almost exclusively for civils--and occasionally a structural
||journal (great,
||unless you don't happen to be an academic).
||
||Other than that, the organization is totally worthless. If
||they can't use a
||bit of my money to maintain electronic downloads of these standard
||documents, then I'm not sure why the h*** I keep sending 'em
||that money
||every year!
||
||Comments?
||
||
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