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Well, if the 1997 UBC is any indication, if I got it for free, I was
overcharged!

Bill Allen, S.E. (CA #2607)




||-----Original Message-----
||From: Yousefi, Ben [mailto:Ben.Yousefi(--nospam--at)ci.sj.ca.us]
||Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:46 AM
||To: 'seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org'
||Subject: RE: Building Codes Online?
||
||
||I just have one question for whoever is favor of this
||proposal. The code
||development process is a very expensive endeavor. The cost includes
||accommodations for the people involved, the meetings and the expenses
||associated with the coordination that has to happen to put
||the whole thing
||together. Who is going to pay for this if the code is given
||away for free?
||
||Ben Yousefi, SE
||san Jose, CA
||
||-----Original Message-----
||From: Cratylus Consulting Group [mailto:cratylus(--nospam--at)earthlink.net]
||Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 12:59 PM
||To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
||Subject: Re: Building Codes Online?
||
||
||I have not heard a thing about this appellate decision, or of
||the content of
||the
||Veeck web site.
||However, I can think of several issues to support such a
||legal analysis:
||1) Why would you bother to protect a copyright or
||'intellectual' product
||that is
||obsolete in three years?,
||2) How can anyone profit (financially and to ICBO's/SBCCI's/BOCA's
||detriment) by
||using and liberally publishing code provisions?,
||3) To what extent can the broad and liberal dissemination of
||public and life
||safety information harm these publishers? (it could only
||enhance the public
||interest I would think),
||4) Could anyone near the profit these publishers extract from
||the three year
||code
||cycle! For crying out loud, this 3 year cycle gives them new
||work-product to
||market so quickly - only a fool would attempt to plagiarize it for
||commercial
||purposes!
||
||Steven A.
||Los Angeles
||
||
||HBAP(--nospam--at)aol.com wrote:
||
||> Anyone notice the "News Brief" in the September issue of
||Building Design &
||> Construction under the title "Court decision threatens code
||developers'
||> copyrights"? It reports (see page 11) that Texas retiree Peter Veeck
||posted
||> portions of their locally adopted building code on his Website.
||Predictably
||> it promptly went to court, with SBCCI, NFPA, ANSI, and
||others jumping
||> (probably frantically) into the fray. The news brief stated
||that the Fifth
||> Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a lower courts ruling in
||Veeck's favor
||that
||> once a copyrighted code was adopted by a governmental
||jurisdiction is was
||in
||> public domain and therefore not subject to copyright
||protection. You can
||read
||> an excerpt at www.bdcmag.com under "Legal Briefs". However,
||go to Google
||and
||> type in "Peter Veeck" and numerous references would
||indicate that he DID
||NOT
||> prevail. Having access to building codes online would
||obviously devastate
||> revenue from code publishers, and be vigorously resisted,
||but be a boon
||for
||> the rest of us, and is probably inevitable given the likes
||of Veeck..
||>
||> Hugh Brooks, SE
||> Retain Pro Software
||>
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