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You'r right

"Perspective changes everything"

a quote I have been seeing too often, and another one
that I am missing

"They could'nt hit an elephant at this distance"(since
I'm missing it I fail to remember it...sorry Chris)

Pankaj


--- "Bill Allen, S.E." <Bill(--nospam--at)jrma.com> wrote:
> Well, if the 1997 UBC is any indication, if I got it
> for free, I was
> overcharged!
> 
> Bill Allen, S.E. (CA #2607)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ||-----Original Message-----
> ||From: Yousefi, Ben
> [mailto:Ben.Yousefi(--nospam--at)ci.sj.ca.us]
> ||Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:46 AM
> ||To: 'seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org'
> ||Subject: RE: Building Codes Online?
> ||
> ||
> ||I just have one question for whoever is favor of
> this
> ||proposal. The code
> ||development process is a very expensive endeavor.
> The cost includes
> ||accommodations for the people involved, the
> meetings and the expenses
> ||associated with the coordination that has to
> happen to put
> ||the whole thing
> ||together. Who is going to pay for this if the code
> is given
> ||away for free?
> ||
> ||Ben Yousefi, SE
> ||san Jose, CA
> ||
> ||-----Original Message-----
> ||From: Cratylus Consulting Group
> [mailto:cratylus(--nospam--at)earthlink.net]
> ||Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 12:59 PM
> ||To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> ||Subject: Re: Building Codes Online?
> ||
> ||
> ||I have not heard a thing about this appellate
> decision, or of
> ||the content of
> ||the
> ||Veeck web site.
> ||However, I can think of several issues to support
> such a
> ||legal analysis:
> ||1) Why would you bother to protect a copyright or
> ||'intellectual' product
> ||that is
> ||obsolete in three years?,
> ||2) How can anyone profit (financially and to
> ICBO's/SBCCI's/BOCA's
> ||detriment) by
> ||using and liberally publishing code provisions?,
> ||3) To what extent can the broad and liberal
> dissemination of
> ||public and life
> ||safety information harm these publishers? (it
> could only
> ||enhance the public
> ||interest I would think),
> ||4) Could anyone near the profit these publishers
> extract from
> ||the three year
> ||code
> ||cycle! For crying out loud, this 3 year cycle
> gives them new
> ||work-product to
> ||market so quickly - only a fool would attempt to
> plagiarize it for
> ||commercial
> ||purposes!
> ||
> ||Steven A.
> ||Los Angeles
> ||
> ||
> ||HBAP(--nospam--at)aol.com wrote:
> ||
> ||> Anyone notice the "News Brief" in the September
> issue of
> ||Building Design &
> ||> Construction under the title "Court decision
> threatens code
> ||developers'
> ||> copyrights"? It reports (see page 11) that Texas
> retiree Peter Veeck
> ||posted
> ||> portions of their locally adopted building code
> on his Website.
> ||Predictably
> ||> it promptly went to court, with SBCCI, NFPA,
> ANSI, and
> ||others jumping
> ||> (probably frantically) into the fray. The news
> brief stated
> ||that the Fifth
> ||> Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a lower courts
> ruling in
> ||Veeck's favor
> ||that
> ||> once a copyrighted code was adopted by a
> governmental
> ||jurisdiction is was
> ||in
> ||> public domain and therefore not subject to
> copyright
> ||protection. You can
> ||read
> ||> an excerpt at www.bdcmag.com under "Legal
> Briefs". However,
> ||go to Google
> ||and
> ||> type in "Peter Veeck" and numerous references
> would
> ||indicate that he DID
> ||NOT
> ||> prevail. Having access to building codes online
> would
> ||obviously devastate
> ||> revenue from code publishers, and be vigorously
> resisted,
> ||but be a boon
> ||for
> ||> the rest of us, and is probably inevitable given
> the likes
> ||of Veeck..
> ||>
> ||> Hugh Brooks, SE
> ||> Retain Pro Software
> ||>
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