Need a book? Engineering books recommendations...

Return to index: [Subject] [Thread] [Date] [Author]

Re: List Members

[Subject Prev][Subject Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next]
Well said, Bill. Let's forgive and forget the offensive things and
continue to discuss things of mutual interest.

Stan Scholl, P.E.
Laguna Beach,CA

On Fri, 18 Oct 2002 13:18:38 -0400 BCainse(--nospam--at)aol.com writes:
> I've been following the personal attacks against various list members 
> with disgust. Honest discussion and respectful disagreement, which 
> have been characteristics of this list service since it began, are 
> going by the wayside.
> 
> I would like to offer an observation about several of the 
> individuals that have been vilified for their political views and 
> for their opinions on structural matters. 
> 
> First, Dennis Wish has been one of the strongest contributors 
> throughout the life of this list server.  While he holds very strong 
> opinions and expresses them forcefully, he has tirelessly worked to 
> improve the codes we design under for residential construction. 
> Agree with him or not, all must recognize how much heart he puts 
> into his posts. The points Dennis has raised have, on many 
> occasions, caused me to think a little harder about various code 
> provisions, what they mean and whether they represent good 
> engineering.  I haven't always agreed with his interpretation, but I 
> believe his value in this forum is huge. I hope he will not go away 
> as some have suggested. in my view, that would be tragic.
> 
> Second, Bill Polhemus has numerous times injected politics into his 
> commentary.  While I disagree with much of what he says politically, 
> his technical contributions where he has expertise and his 
> willingness to ask penetrating and clear questions where he does 
> not, have brought a great deal of value to the list.  I'm more than 
> willing to listen to his political diatribes due to the value I 
> believe he brings to the list server with his technical 
> contributions.
> 
> Third, Scott Haan makes some pretty outrageous remarks at times.  
> But look at the numerous contributions he has made toward us all 
> understanding plan checkers better. He has put a human face on plan 
> checkers and brought a perspective many structural engineers have 
> not experienced. I value his contributions and look forward to 
> reading his posts (Usually :<)  )
> 
> Is there a pattern here?  I think so.  People who contribute the 
> most do have strong opinions.  I, for one, believe they are all 
> important to the value of the list server.  A little tolerance to 
> opposing views will go a long way to improving this list server.  
> 
> Frank discussion produces a stronger profession.  We may not be able 
> to solve all the ills with the various building codes, but, we 
> should not stop talking about issues just because they are not 
> framed in the most politically correct way.
> 
> Can we have a little tolerance?
> 
> Regards,
> Bill Cain, S.E.
> Albany  CA
> 
> ******* ****** ******* ******** ******* ******* ******* ***
> *   Read list FAQ at: http://www.seaint.org/list_FAQ.asp
> * 
> *   This email was sent to you via Structural Engineers 
> *   Association of Southern California (SEAOSC) server. To 
> *   subscribe (no fee) or UnSubscribe, please go to:
> *
> *   http://www.seaint.org/sealist1.asp
> *
> *   Questions to seaint-ad(--nospam--at)seaint.org. Remember, any email you 
> *   send to the list is public domain and may be re-posted 
> *   without your permission. Make sure you visit our web 
> *   site at: http://www.seaint.org 
> ******* ****** ****** ****** ******* ****** ****** ******** 
> 


******* ****** ******* ******** ******* ******* ******* ***
*   Read list FAQ at: http://www.seaint.org/list_FAQ.asp
* 
*   This email was sent to you via Structural Engineers 
*   Association of Southern California (SEAOSC) server. To 
*   subscribe (no fee) or UnSubscribe, please go to:
*
*   http://www.seaint.org/sealist1.asp
*
*   Questions to seaint-ad(--nospam--at)seaint.org. Remember, any email you 
*   send to the list is public domain and may be re-posted 
*   without your permission. Make sure you visit our web 
*   site at: http://www.seaint.org 
******* ****** ****** ****** ******* ****** ****** ********