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RE: seaint Digest for 31 Dec 2002

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File this under "Too late now, but in the future".  TrusJoist makes a
product with tubular steel webs and wooden chords.  A small picture can
be found here:  Have used
them once on a project with no complaints.  There is generally more
clearance and flexibility for web placement than with the all 2x type.
(Of course, they're more expensive, as well.)

Let us know how your load testing goes.


Joseph Charpentier, PE

(Note to anyone from TrusJoist:  MS Outlook wants to replace your name
with "Trashiest"- I'd talk to them about that. ;-)  )

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> From: "Chris Meyer" <chris.meyer(--nospam--at)>
> To: <seaint(--nospam--at)>
> Subject: Parallel Chord Wood Floor Trusses
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> Here's a question to get everyone's New Year rolling...I am 
> curious to = know if anyone has had a problem with using 
> metal plate connected wood = floor trusses.  I've mostly 
> dealt with I-joists here in Ohio, but the = contractor on 
> this job requested to use floor trusses.  This made sense = 
> since there will be a significant amount of ductwork that 
> will be going =
> through the webs.   However, I recently encountered a report 
> published =
> by an engineering firm in Austin,TX that documents in-service 
> failures = of these trusses.  According to the report the 
> ultimate capacity of the = tested metal plate connections is 
> less than what is determined by = accepted industry standards 
> (ANSI/TPI 1995). This resulted in plate = peeling and tooth 
> withdrawal. (You can review the report at = 
> )  Here's my =
> dilemma...1) The job is already in the shop drawing phase so 
> alternate = floor systems at this time are not an option  2) 
> The report looked at = residential loads (40 psf LL) and the 
> floor trusses I have specified = will have a live load of 100 
> psf.  If this were a residence I wouldn't = be AS concerned 
> with it as I am with this public use facility.  To top = 
> things off the architect has specified a 1/4" slate tile on 
> most of the = floor so any excess deflection/slip will be a 
> problem.  I will not be = sealing the truss shop drawings, 
> but with this new found knowledge, and = as the EOR I thought 
> I should investigate this further.  Sorry this is = so long 
> winded, but I think this may be a very important issue.  The 
> = report brings up other interesting items, but I'll let 
> those interested = read that.  I will most likely have at 
> least two trusses tested to twice = the live load to insure 
> their performance.
> Any input will be GREATLY appreciated.
> Happy New Year (Go Buckeyes!)
> Chris Meyer, EIT
> chris.meyer(--nospam--at)

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