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You can purchase the shape database from AISC, and download a database
program for Palm, a few I had before are: HanDbase
(www.ddhsoftware.com), MobileDB (http://www.handmark.com), you can get
trial verions of these program to try.  They should come with a desktop
application you will import other format (text file, spreadsheet, access
database) to it's own format and use it on Palm.  The shape database
from AISC comes in different formats.  I'm not sure what it is now, but
the one I'm using I had it years ago, and it was c0mma delimited text.

The material weight, I actually typed them into a spreadsheet, copying
from the back of AISC manual, and imported into the Palm database
program.  Same for the bolt values.  But if search on the net long
enough, you will find a lot of database you can download and use, and
modify and use.   Good luck.



Y i   Y a n g  P. E.
Summit Engineering Inc.
Santa Rosa, CA


-----Original Message-----
From: G M [mailto:newabhaju(--nospam--at)hotmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 3:28 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
Subject: RE: Pocket PC


Yi:

It was interesting to note the various use you have found for the PDA.
Regarding AISC data base, material weights, etc. - is there a program I
can 
buy.

Gautam






>From: "YI" <YI(--nospam--at)summit-sr.com>
>Reply-To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
>To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
>Subject: RE: Pocket PC
>Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 13:22:39 -0800
>
>First of all I don't own a PocketPC right now, so this is just from 
>what I see and hear from others who use PocketPC.
>
>To start,  the benefit of any PDA is that you can have information 
>that's normally available from your laptop or PC, right in the palm of 
>your hand.  For structural engineers, you can load database for things 
>such as anchor bolt values or steel shapes into your PDA, or have 
>spreadsheets loaded to do some calc (although you have to keep it 
>simple, the fastest PDA runs on 400 Mhz, and the memory is relatively 
>expensive).  I have a Palm and thinking of getting a PocketPC.  I use 
>the Palm device a little more than just a calendar.  It has a AISC 
>shape database, bolt information, common material weights, ICBO 
>approved Hilti anchor values, a unit conversion program, and a 
>spreadsheet program that sync with Excel, and I wrote a program for 
>Palm to design tank anchors (I do a lot of that).  And of course a 
>Tetris game.  Not that I use all of these all the time, but know that 
>they are there when I need it, is a good feeling.
>
>To justify getting a PocketPC, on the software side, it's much similar 
>to Windows (I'm not sure if that's a good thing or bad thing), so you 
>are familiar with the functions in PocketExcel or PockcetWord etc.  The

>sync process seems to be better integrated with the desktop Microsoft 
>product.  There are some programs available for engineering purposes. 
>Check out http://www.enggtools.com/ for starter.  If you have the 
>budget, AutoDesk makes Pocket CAD, I think it's about $199, you can 
>view and edit AutoCAD files on your PocketPC (there is not plan, as far

>as I know, to make a Palm version, the hardware is just not good 
>enough). If you are really into this, you can try to write the programs

>yourself, in Visual Basic.  The spreadsheet programs available for Palm

>are not quite up to par with the PocketExcel.
>
>For the hardware, you can just whip out the PocketPC at any time and 
>turn it on and access the information.  Laptop, you have to turn it on 
>and wait for it to boot.  I'm sure a $800 laptop will take a while to 
>boot up into XP or Win2K.  I think the screen size is acceptable given 
>the portability.  And the connectivity, some PDA has built-in WiFi, 
>others require an add-on card.  With WiFi, the wireless Ethernet, you 
>can roam around you office, home (with the proper setup) or downtown 
>San Francisco and be connected to the internet all the time.  Laptop 
>wouldn't be so convenient (for its size).  The advantage of built-in 
>WiFi is that you don't have to loose a expansion slot, which would be 
>very useful for memory expansion.  On that note, the Toshiba e740 would

>be a good choice for less than $500, it has built-in WiFi.  The new HP 
>iPaq 5450 has that and more, but it also costs a lot more.
>
>A comparable Palm device, with similar hardware, would cost just as 
>much (a Palm Tungsten T is $499).  There are of course benefit of 
>buying a Palm device, like its simple user interface and huge amount of

>available programs written for Palm.  But that's not what you want hear

>right now.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Y i   Y a n g  P. E.
>Summit Engineering Inc.
>Santa Rosa, CA
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: G M [mailto:newabhaju(--nospam--at)hotmail.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 12:28 PM
>To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
>Subject: Re: Pocket PC
>
>
>To all:
>
>Recently, there was a thread on Pocket PC.  I have been thinking of 
>buying one but have not been able to decide.  I would like some input 
>based on your
>experience.  The things I am debating about are:
>
>1.  The pocket PC cost is in the $500 range compared to a laptop 
>currently available at $800 range.  Of course, the pocket PC has the 
>advantage in size, but is that a good enough reason?
>2.  What can you do with a pocket PC - in terms of engineering
>activites.  I
>have seen the highend handhelds that can do word and excel.  However,
>with
>the limitation of the screen size, is this something you use?  Can one
>use a
>excel spreadsheet for design efficiently on the Pocket PC and high end
>palm
>tops?
>3.  I know the use will vary from person to person.  But for a typical
>consulting structural engineer, is is worth spending the $500.  I do
>have
>plam handheld that I use as a glorified calender (dates, phones, etc.)-
>but
>other than that , I see little use (so far, anyway).
>
>I would apprecite your comments and any recommendations.
>
>Gautam
>
>
>
>
>
>
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