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Mark D. Anderson  PE
Anchorage, AK


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jake Watson" <jwatson(--nospam--at)utahisp.com>
To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 6:55 AM
Subject: RE: Advertising Engineering Services


> Walk down the street and look at a power pole (they have some really
> creative hardware). If you need more information, the power industry
people
> have specific hardware for this connection.  I know that connector
> catalogues exist, but I haven't been able to get my grubby little hands on
> one yet.  Contact someone on the construction side in your area and ask
who
> supplies their parts.  Encompass is a fairly large contractor that does
this
> kind of work.  See if you can find one of their local offices.
>
> Keep in mind that the power industry uses different allowables and loads
> than the building industry.  You will need to convert the information that
> you get from the suppliers.
>
> Best of luck,
>
> Jake Watson, P.E.
> Salt Lake City, UT
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Bryson [mailto:MBryson(--nospam--at)mhpse.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 5:53 PM
> To: 'seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org'
> Subject: RE: Advertising Engineering Services
>
>
> Anybody happen to know a resource to use for detailing a pole support guy
> wire e.g like a telephone pole guy wire?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Feather [mailto:pfeather(--nospam--at)SE-Solutions.net]
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 5:38 PM
> To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> Subject: Re: Advertising Engineering Services
>
>
> Bill,
>
> The way the Act is written, the only prohibited terminology is "Consulting
> Engineer", "Professional Engineer", or "Registered Engineer" and any
> combination of the above.  The problem is the title "Engineer" (or
> Engineering) is not specifically covered without the qualifier, and there
is
> little governing language concerning inference.  Hence we get "Building
> Engineer", "Project Engineer" (one of my personal peeves), and A&E firms
> without any E.
>
> In the same way we get "Structural Consultant" "Structural Designer",
etc..
> to imply Structural Engineering without violating the title act.
>
> The CA PE Act does not specifically address advertising of engineering
> services.  The closest we get is under section 6738 where a business must
> have a currently registered engineer as an owner, part owner, or officer
in
> charge of the engineering practice of the business to "offer to practice"
> engineering.  However later in the same section "this chapter does not
> prevent a business engaged in any line of endeavor other than the practice
> of engineering from employing or contracting with a registered engineer to
> perform engineering services incidental to the conduct of business".
>
> I would like to see the Boards interpretation of the scenario you present.
> One the one hand the individual is "offering to practice" by advertising
> engineering services, but on the other is "free to contract" to provide
> those services incidental to their business (Architecture).
>
> I think the PE Act needs to be strengthened in the area of advertising
> engineering as well as the use of the term engineering. Nevada is an
> excellent example, where the law prohibits advertising of "engineering" of
> any kind without a full time registered engineer on staff, and if the
> engineer leaves the firm has only 30 days to find a replacement.
> Additionally Nevada requires a registered structural for any building over
> 45 feet in height measured from the bottom of the lowest footing.
>
> Arizona also has better requirements than CA, and the primary difference
> that any structural design be performed by a structural engineer (practice
> act rather than title act).
>
> Paul Feather PE, SE
> pfeather(--nospam--at)SE-Solutions.net
> www.SE-Solutions.net
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Allen" <T.W.Allen(--nospam--at)cox.net>
> To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 11:40 AM
> Subject: Advertising Engineering Services
>
>
> > Something that has wrangled me for years are architectural firms
> > advertising or implying that they provide structural engineering
> > services. I know that laws vary from state to state and I am only
> > interested in California (sorry), but does anyone know what the "rules"
> > are for this activity? Yes, I know the B&P code allows architects to
> > provide structural engineering (with certain exceptions related to
> > schools and hospitals - I really don't want this thread to get into a
> > debate on the specifics of the exceptions, please), but few (and none
> > that I know) actually provide this service. They all hire out with the
> > exception of TRUE A&E firms who have in house architects and engineers.
> > I have no beef with these firms but there are several who advertise this
> > service who a.) do not have an engineer on staff nor b.) have the
> > expertise to actually perform structural engineering. I have encountered
> > firms whose name is "ABC Architects and Engineers", "John Doe, Inc. -
> > Architecture, Interiors, Planning and Engineering" or some who merely
> > list structural engineering as a service that they provide (in their
> > literature or on their website), implying that this service is available
> > by in-house staff where, in reality as we all know, the service is
> > provided by an outside consultant. I know that the term "engineer" is
> > not protected as the term "architect" and a lot of folks get around the
> > "structural engineer" title authority by just using the term "engineer"
> > when everyone (except BORPELS) realizes is used to imply structural
> > engineering.
> >
> > Your response is appreciated.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > T. William (Bill) Allen, S.E. (CA #2607)
> > San Juan Capistrano, CA
> >
> >
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