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RE: Parking Garage Loading - IBC/UBC

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Your conscientiousness is admirable. Not many people look at these issues in
the light that you are looking at. My suggestion would be to describe this
exactly the way you have done here to the owner, and let him make the
decision. After all he is the owner and if he wants a better building, he
should be willing to pay for it.

And, I am not aware of any garage collapses under gravity loading either. At
least not in California.

Ben Yousefi, SE
San Jose, CA

-----Original Message-----
From: Jake Watson [mailto:jwatson(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 7:25 AM
To: Structural Engineering Association International
Subject: Parking Garage Loading - IBC/UBC

We are working on a precast parking garage in northern California.  The '97
UBC requires a 50 PSF live load.  This can be reduced to 30 PSF for the
columns and even the double-tees we are using.  The IBC (read ASCE 7-98)
doesn't allow the reduction for the double-tees and the columns will be
designed for 40 PSF.  We are debating which direction to advise to owner to
go.  I am not aware of any parking garage failures but don't want the
building to be "under-designed" in 5 years when California does change codes
to something other than the UBC.  This is a eight story garage and the
impacts will be huge based on the decision.  Like usual it is a fast track
job, and we need foundations in two weeks.  Opinions greatly appreciated.

Jake Watson, P.E.

Salt Lake City, UT

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