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Mike

I agree with Roger..I had similar problem once..Concrete plant guys may use
admixture (you gotta ask them what kind of admixture they did use for
example?) much more than required amount..

Good luck

Murat

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Turk" <73527.1356(--nospam--at)compuserve.com>
To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 12:07 AM
Subject: Concrete disintegration


> Mike,
>
> Please post what you find out as I'm sure that everyone would like to
know.
>
> In the meantime, I'll throw out a couple of things for you to consider:
>
> Do the trucks have aluminum drums, fins or chutes?  If the concrete was
> pumped, did the pump line have an aluminum liner or was aluminum?
Aluminum
> and concrete do not get along well at all.
>
> Sugar will prevent concrete from setting up, but that would have prevented
> the test cylinders to set up also.  (Not a delayed reaction that I am
aware
> of.)
>
> Were any admixtures used and were they used in the proper amount?  I think
> that there was a recent article in ENR where about 10 times the
recommended
> amount of an admixture was added to concrete and caused problems.
>
> HTH
>
> Good Luck!
>
> A. Roger Turk, P.E.(Structural)
> Tucson, Arizona
>
> Mike Livingston wrote:
>
> . > Yesterday I told my kids I crushed concrete with my bare hands.  It
was
> . > less funny for the homeowners though.  I was called out to look at
some
> . > homes where the basement walls and foundations were spalling,
slumping,
> . > and just plain crumbling away.  The homes are many miles away from
each
> . > other with the concrete supplier being the common factor.  Test
cylinders
> . > from the same batch were recently tested with about 1/4 of the
strength
> . > they had before. We're going to take core samples, do a chemical
> . > analysis, and replace the foundation, but I'm curious as to what you
> . > think the supplier put into his concrete to have such devastating
results
> . > a few months later?  (Seems salt instead of sand might do the
trick...)
> . > Does anyone have any reference materials they can aim me at?
>
> . > Thanks,
>
> . > Mike Livingston, SE, CE, P.Eng
>
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