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Re: ICBO Approvals - was why can't we get along

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I don't know when the ICBO ES reports system was started, but I've used them for over thirty years.   The ICC Evaluation Service lists up to 6,182 current reports.  I suggest that you visit their website:

Stating that they are only used in California isn't accurate.  I do work in many states, including Florida, and they are accepted there by some organizations.  They are similar to ISO reports and I sure that you are familiar with them.

By the way, are you a member if ICBO?  If you are, then you would be familiar with their publication "building standards" or have you seen their index of current reports?

And please do read them.  I've found some with mistakes.

Neil Moore, S.E.
neil moore and associates

At 10:41 AM 6/26/2003 -0400, GSKWY(--nospam--at) wrote:
My question was somewhat hypothetical - I actually do believe in independent third party testing, and for that matter I do not think certifying post-tensioning anchorages is a bad idea.

However,  I think users of such reports have a duty to actually read them, or at least the beginning part where it describes the system, to ensure that the system proposed is the same as the system certified.   I am not sure this is always the case.  

I have never heard of anywhere except California requiring ICBO ES reports, but I guess that will change with the spread of the IBC.  

Gail Kelley