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As other posts have indicated, my explanation needs a little more
clarification.  I was referring to the considerations you must look at
for the flexural strength of the angles in regards to providing adequate
rotation to consider the connection as a simple shear connection.  As
others have indicated, the shear also must be addressed as stated in
AISC J1.9.  I believe my explanation is valid because both angles must
rotate the same amount to provide the pin at the beam/column face.
Anybody else have any comments on this?  It seems to me that you should
use the section modulus of both angles for the flexural yielding and
rupture limit states, and use the area of a single angle for calculating
shear yielding and rupture limit states.  How would others approach

Zachary C. Goswick, P.E.

-----Original Message-----
From: Zachary Goswick 
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 4:22 PM
To: 'seaint(--nospam--at)'
Subject: RE: double angle conn

The angle that is bolted to the girder has more rotational stiffness
associated with it because it has clamping action between the bolt and
the tip of the bolted angle leg.  It will therefore attract more load
than the welded side.  I would approach this by proportioning the load
based on the siffness of each condition.  Bolted connections are
approximated as a member with fixed-fixed end conditions spanning
between the bolts.  This allows less rotation than welded connections,
which are approximated to have pinned-pinned end conditions.  You have
something of a fixed-pinned end condition.  Each angle will not recieve
half of the beam reaction.  I would run through the calc to see if it is
still safe.  

Zachary C. Goswick, P.E.

-----Original Message-----
From: brian stanley [mailto:bstanley(--nospam--at)] 
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:01 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: double angle conn

In a double angle connection of a floor beam to a supporting floor
girder, are there any issues with one of the angles being field bolted,
while the other is field welded?  The erector had to modify some
connections (approved by fabricator) in this fashion.  Is it safe to
design each angle to receive half of the beam reaction? 
Brian Stanley, P.E. 
Baltimore, Md 

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