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We do not provide construction estimates.  For insurance/liability reasons, we provide an "opinion of probable construction costs"

In addition to the R. S. Means book(s) that Stan mentioned, we keep our own in house data base which is constantly updated as projects are bid.

We also try to never be the "low bidder"  :-)

Pat Symons

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Turk [mailto:73527.1356(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 10:46 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: RE: Construction Estimating

Stan Caldwell wrote:

. > Bill:

. > I recommend that you buy two or three of the annual R. S. Means books. 
. > They also offer CD and online tools. None of this is perfect, but it is
. > what we use most often.  Of course, we avoid making construction cost
. > estimates whenever possible!

. > Regards,

. > Stan R. Caldwell, P.E.

I agree with Stan, but prefer the books to the CD.  The computer between my
ears can discern more with a glance on the printed page than I can find
searching for hours on a CD.

Means' Square Foot Costs book can give preliminary estimates of construction
costs and provides examples on how the costs are developed using their
Assemblies Cost book.

One of the things that I have used the Means books for is to determine the
reasonableness of schedules of values and T&M pay requests.  On one roof
failure a number of years ago, the contractor was billing the owner $14 a day
per screw post shoring.  Means quickly showed that screw post shoring rented
for $14 *a month*!

A. Roger Turk, P.E.(Structural)
Tucson, Arizona

Bill Polhemus wrote:

. > I am frequently called upon by clients to render an estimate of
. > construction cost. I don't mind this at all, except for the fact that I've
. > never come up with a satisfactory set of tools to do it.

. > I have tried various spreadsheet formats and even looked at software
. > available for purchase, but they are all geared more toward estimates FOR
. > construction cost, not OF construction cost.

. > The distinction is that I, as engineer, am not concerned about the grisly
. > details of what goes into an estimate. I want to work with gross effects.
. > The contractor wants to be able to apply minute controls; I simply want a
. > bottom line with a reasonable breakdown of how I got there without all the
. > ghastly detail.

. > I wonder if anyone here has come up with or developed a tool that you like
. > to use for making such estimates, and if you would care to share it with
. > the rest of us. For myself, I'm tired of flailing around trying to find
. > something that fits.

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