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See how easy it is to start a fight, when BOTH sides are right? 
Stan - your last post mentioned two key words that drastically changed the salary equation: "MANAGER" and "OIL".
I admit, I felt pretty depressed upon reading your original post:  I'm a 30 year-old engineer with a Master's degree, P.E. and S.E. working in the Kansas City, and I don't earn anywhere near 6 figures.  I started updating my resume immediately with the intention of moving to Dallas.  I'm sure Peter and Paul are correct that a P.E. earning 6 figures at 30 years old is very rare.
But factor in the fact that he's working in offshore oil (very specialized engineering in a high-profit segment of industry) and the fact that he's a manager, and I can easily see 6 figures.  Congratulations to your son.
Also, I found out from my wife (her firm has a branch office there) that the Dallas area has horrible traffic, with a minimum 2 hour commute.  Any comment on this?
Jason W. Kilgore, PE, SE
Project Engineer
Leigh & O'Kane, L.L.C.
816-444-9655 (FAX)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 11:43 AM
Subject: RE: Future Generations of Engineers

Peter & Paul (& Mary?):
My previous statement was entirely factual.  He is an engineering manager working in the deepwater offshore oil industry.  His field of expertise is finite element analysis.
End of subject!
Stan Caldwell
 -----Original Message-----
From: Peter Griem [mailto:griem(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 12:41 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: RE: Future Generations of Engineers

Perhaps he's counting the decimals as two of the six figures.  Or maybe he's actually building 6 figurines as a hobby.  Obviously, he has nothing to do with structural engineering - Chem. Eng. maybe?. 
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Crocker [mailto:paulc(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 12:04 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: RE: Future Generations of Engineers

"My son is a 30 year old P.E. making six figures."

Enough with the philosophy talk, invite him to post on the list and let us know his strategies!  I'd bet that's about 2x what most 30 year old PEs make, unless you mean his PE license is 30 years old, making him about 55. 

Paul Crocker, 30 year old with a 2 year old PE