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# Hanger Reinforcements

• To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
• Subject: Hanger Reinforcements
• From: "Wontae Kim" <kimwontae(--nospam--at)email.com>
• Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 08:21:31 -0500

```Hi!

I have some questions about the hanger reinforcement.
I am reading "Notes on ACI318-02(PCA)..." and "PCI Design Handbook (5th Ed.)".
Whenever I say 'corbel', it is spot corbel (not continuous ledge) in spandrel.

I think that Eq (5) page 15-6 of PCA will govern hanger bar quantity
in most cases.  (I wonder where this formula comes from.)
1) This equation does not consider torsion and shear.
Shouldn't I add this to torsion/shear rebars?
2) Why doesn't this equation consider the thickness or general shape of ledge?
3) Can't I check separation using punching shear concept like Eq (3)?
4) Can I place rebars according to Eq (4) except W+3a, effective length?
(In the precast spandrel, W+3a is approximate 18 in.
So, can I use Eq (5) for the 18 in at the spot corbel and
Eq (4) for the other 3 feet area, if the Double-T has 6 feet stem spacing?)
5) Can I still use Eq (5) for the 'unbalanced loads' case like PCI Figure 4.5.2?

When I read its reference by Klein G. J., I realized this equation takes torsion and
shear into consideration.
(They say clearly this is not additive to torsion and shear.)
5) Can I compare this equation with the above Eq (5)?
Isn't there too much difference?
6) Can I apply this equation for the spot(button) corbel on the Precast spandrel?
I think that 'm' should be adjusted, because the bearing point is not usually located
in the middle of (spandrel thickness + corbel thickness) because corbel and bearing points
cannot be identical generally.
7) Can I reduce hanger bars in the middle of spandrel where torsion and shear are less?

Canadian PCI design handbook doesn't incorporate PCI Design Handbook Table 4.5.1.
....

8)Even though corbel is located in the middle of members like column or wall,
do I have to check these hanger rebars?
If there is enough concrete mass to support compression strut of the corbel,
I don't think they are required.

In my personal opinion, this separation problem is not that serious.
My company put many rebars around spot corbel for Eq 4.5.6 of PCI.
I am really curious this separation is the 'popular and serious' problem in the industry.

Best regards,

Wontae Kim
EIT

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