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You are discussing abuse of the H-1B system rather than what it was originally intended to do. Looking back, I think it was an idea that could only fail in our profession. I also don’t remember that the original H-1B issues allowed non-immigrant status employees to apply for permanent residency status while others were waiting through quotas to obtain green-cards.

To address one of your points – H-1B was NOT intended to obtain lower pay help. In fact, the government required that firms, who had a position to fill, provide two years of paperwork to show what salaries were paid to American employees. The firms were required to pay comparable wages as the H-1B was only intended to fill slots where there were not enough professionals to fill.

I also noticed that the term “professional” must have changed as the H-1B database (which includes permanent employees (green-card), H-2B and L-2 status) includes non-professional experiences such as Structural EIT’s (one firm in Dallas hired an EIT for $39,0000 a year while another advertised for a full Structural at $29,870.00 a year). This gives you some idea as to who might be doctoring the books so to speak. Also, there is now a new market for lawyers and for recruiters for non-immigrant status employees and this also pollutes the system without keeping people honest.




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I am simply stating an opinion.  From what I can see, H-!B hiring has nothing to do with "providing an opporunity" to anyone.  It has to do with hiring inexpensive labor.   


For that matter, I am a second generation America.  I am fully aware of the "last one on the boat" syndrome.  And the "not in by backyard" syndrome.  And any number of other cliches. 


It does not change the fact that if someone cannot read, write or speak English correctly,  it costs me more time (money) to deal with them.  Am I "faulting" them?  No,  I am stating a fact.  I am stating a fact that their employer has chosen to use inexpensive labor and that this is costing me time (money.)


The H-!B databases are pretty interesting. It would also be interesting to know why companies in the DC and Philalephia areas find it necessary to hire H-!B personnel, given the number of graduates that Penn State cranks out. 


Could it be that a structural engineer working for one of these firms will never be able to buy a condo in any building he or she designs?  Or that he or she is sitting in a room with 20 other desks, while designing office buildings that have on-site day care and health clubs?  And that the room hasn't even be vacuumed for a month?


I would note that in looking at the H-1B database, I am not surprised to find DC area firms like Tadjer-Cohen-Edelson and Adtek.  It goes with their reputation.  The vacumming part especially.


Gail Kelley