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> Question #1: What and where would I find out what these
> certain circumstances are?  Would the Bowles reference
> cover this?

The reason you don't use both simultaneously is that skin friction and end
bearing develop maximum strengths at different strain rates.  I don't have
my pier notes handy, but typically the only place you would combine skin
friction and end bearing would be for relatively short distances in hard

> Question #2:  The owner's design shows the 2 columns from
> the bent setting directly on the drilled pier, (there will
> be no cap connecting the two piers together, so they will
> act independently), and the anchor bolts will be cast
> directly into the drilled pier.  This tells me that I will
> need to run vertical steel the full length of the pier due
> to the lateral loads (correct me if I am wrong).  Is this
> typical to run vertical steel the full length of the
> drilled pier?

You're both right and wrong.  You need the reinforcing the full length
because of the tension.  If the pier cracks without reinforcing, then you
have no uplift resistance.  Also, if you use belled piers for tension, I
think you'll need to reinforce the bells (somebody correct me if I'm wrong).
This will require an ironworker down in the hole to tie the bars, which adds
costs on several levels (minimum 30" dia. hole, fully cased construction,
etc.). For lateral loads on relatively long piers, however, you normally
don't have to run the reinforcing the full depth. The moment diagram drops
significantly the further you go below grade.  There are several cheap or
free pier/pile design programs available to demonstrate this.  I personally
would feel much better with at least a small tie beam connecting the tops of
the piers.  It's only 8 feet, and will be MUCH cheaper than repairing the
structure if any of the piers fail laterally.

Jason Kilgore
Leigh & O'Kane, L.L.C.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angie Baughman" <xyz(--nospam--at)>
To: <xyz(--nospam--at)>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 12:57 PM
Subject: RE: Uplift on Belled Drilled Pier

> I would like to hear some more comments on this topic if
> anyone can add to my questions below (and would like to
> share your knowledge and expertise).  I have been asked to
> put some preliminary numbers together for some cost
> comparisons using drilled piers versus one large mass of
> concrete to anchor a structure against overturning (the
> structures are bents that are supporting 2000 L.F. of a
> continuous overhead conveying system located outdoors that
> will be located about 40 feet above ground).  There will
> be about 25 of these bents (2 columns per bent, and the
> bent is 8' center to center of columns) spaced in the 2000
> L.F., so that is the owner's reasoning behind spending the
> time to do an analysis.   The owner wants to see if using
> drilled piers would offset the cost of excavation and
> forming of spread footings (the spread footings would also
> rely on the soil overburden to resist uplift). The soils
> report and recommendations are in progress, so for now I
> am using some low-end skin friction values that the
> geotech recommended.  (This is my first design experience
> with drilled piers).
> The equipment is available to do a belled pier, so I am
> looking at both a straight-shaft or a belled pier.
> However, the reference I was using (Principles of
> Foundation Engineering by Das) stated that "For the
> majority of drilled (belled) piers constructed in the
> United States, the entire load-carrying capacity is
> assigned to the end bearing only.  However, in certain
> circumstances, the end bearing capacity and the side
> friction are taken into account."

> My preliminary numbers are showing that what the owner is
> proposing to do is not going to be cost effective based on
> the quotes he received for the unit cost of concrete to
> excavate and form vs. the unit cost to do a drilled pier.
>  However, the owner is asking for an analysis of what he
> wants to do, and not anyone's opinion.
> Thanks,
> Angela Baughman, P.E.
> Wausau, WI

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