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You hit it on the nose. I did not like being forced into an online connection to find cross section of a beam or other information. It was too much for me as I like the integration of the Softdesk parametric products in the 2000 Architectural Desktop 2. I didn’t spend enough time with either 2002 or with ADT 3.3 to make a full decision, but I could not afford the learning curve at the time. ADT 2004 appears to be much more refined and includes a parts library on your disk rather than as an online catalog. I also found that the online catalogs changed so often that they would come and go faster or create a different “file structure” than I was willing to wade through.


Hard drive space is cheap and I don’t care if the parts library (connectors, structural sections etc.) are provided as blocks or wblocks, or a parametric design – at least it is organized or accessible from my own hard drive.


The upgrade to ADT 2004 includes a “subscription” which I assume is an annual unlimited upgrade for bug fixes. I am not really knowledgeable on this as I’ve always gone to websites to download upgrades if they were necessary. Maybe someone else can tell me is this is an important feature and what I would expect to pay on an annual basis to keep up the “subscription” if this is necessary.




-----Original Message-----
From: Donna Gochenaur [mailto:Dgochenaur(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 6:36 AM
To: 'seaint(--nospam--at)'
Subject: RE: AutoCad Arch Desktop 2004




I would like to know more about your opinion on ADT 3.0.  We need to upgrade our AutoCAD 2000 and can upgrade to ADT 3.0 (whether or not we can afford to is another question) but it costs more than just upgrading to 2000i.  What didn't you like?  Was is just the online catalogs?  What do you mean by "required online interaction"?




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Donna L. Gochenaur, PE
Structural Engineering
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-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Wish [mailto:dennis.wish(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 6:06 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Cc: cvsea(--nospam--at)
Subject: AutoCad Arch Desktop 2004

Are any of you using the Architectural Desktop 2004? I have until the middle of January to make my decision to upgrade ($1,890.00) or not. I tried AutoCad 2002 and Architectural Desktop 3.0 (which doesn't seem to be on the list of upgrades at all) and I did not like them. There was too much required online interaction that kept changing over time. I wanted something that stayed on my computer and either created details parametrically or offered a library that was on my system rather than relying upon going to online catalogs.


If anyone has upgraded from Architectural Desktop 2 to Architectural Desktop 2004, please let me know what you think is an advantage (if any) and whether it is worth taking the plunge and giving into software extortion :>)