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RE: sound transmission, treated wood

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I recently checked into this regarding buildings built for termite
resistance (not rot).
All copper-based treatment products accelerate the corrosion of steel
fasteners, but of course moisture must be present to support the
process.  While it is true CA-B is more aggressive than CCA, it has
always been the recommendation of fastener manufacturers to use HDG or
SS.  (And note this is required by UBC 2304.3 anyway.)
The caveat is that for treated lumber that has a maintains a low
moisture content, EG or even untreated fasteners may be okay.  But
because there is no testing to my knowledge (and Simpson, when I queried
them), no one will say in writing that this is acceptable.  
The bottom line is that there should be no change in specifying
fasteners for CA-B treated lumber; as it has always been for CCA they
should be HDG or SS (or silicon bronze or copper) unless you have a good
reason (and no fear of litigation) to believe that something else will
A fast-growing option, especially for termite resistance, is
borate-treatment, which is non-toxic.  I don't know what the fastener
effect is.  The down-side of borates is that they leach out of wood that
is subjected to water transmission, like ground contact.  Trus-Joist has
tried selling it for sill plates in LSL material.
Ed Tornberg

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Kester [mailto:akester(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:03 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: sound transmission, treated wood

IMO, sound transmission is a science unto its own, not one that should
be tackled by SEs. I am working on a school project, and in the Music
building they hired an acoustician to make such high tech
reccomendations as solid grouted full height walls :)  There are special
drop ceilings, foams to use at wall penetrations, etc., so there must be
something to the science or else why would they spend taxpayers money on
this consultant, right?
CCA is being phased out as of Dec. 31st, 2003. So I was wondering what
most of you plan on specifying for  treated wood ?  I have heard that
the new preservatives can be much more corrosive, and that some
fasteners may be required to be stainless or hot dip galv. Any thoughts
or opinions would be welcomed.

Andrew kester

Longwood, FL