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It all depends on who produces the best looking
package which the public sees.  If you think the
architect gets too much compared to the engineer,
you should have seen the fees of the interior designer/
decorator on one of my jobs-more than the engineers&
architect together.
Gary


On 30 Dec 2003 at 14:23, Huffman, Sharlie TRAN:EX wrote:

> Of course not - and I agree with you on traffic accidents - it's
> always the other person's fault.
> 
> If you are not taking responsibility for the competency of your
> designs (not the whole project mind), why are you sealing them? 
> That's what the seal means.  No one runs into court waving their
> cheque book, but if you design for the wrong seismic zone (for
> example) and your structure falls down in a quake, I don't think
> yelling "I'm innocent" will get you very far, in front of your
> licensing body or in court.  On fuzzier issues, you naturally make the
> best case you can.
> 
> My point was that when an building fails, people start looking at the
> engineering faster than they look at the architecture.  Whether you
> admit guilt or not or whether you are found guilty in court or not,
> you are more likely to be the target of litigation than the architect.
>  Thus it seems a little unfair that you should be paid 5%- 10% as
> much.
> 
> Sharlie Huffman, P.Eng.
> 
> Ministry of Transportation
> Bridge Seismic Engineer
> 4B - 940 Blanshard
> Victoria, BC V8W 3E6
> (B) 250-370-2566
> (F) 250-387-7735
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Turk [mailto:73527.1356(--nospam--at)compuserve.com] 
> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 6:07 PM
> To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> Subject: RE: Fee for Custom Residence
> 
> 
> Sharlie,
> 
> Are you saying that in Canada an Engineer says, "I'm guilty!" and gets
> out his/her checkbook without even being given the chance of having a
> trial or being judged?  I think not, but, if you want to state that
> you are automatically at fault and *liable* for anything that may go
> wrong on a project, then that's up to you.
> 
> Automobile insurance companies' first instruction if you get in an
> accident is, "Do not admit fault."  Why should it be different if you
> are an engineer?
> 
> A. Roger Turk, P.E.(Structural)
> Tucson, Arizona
> 
> Sharlie Huffman wrote:
> 
> . > Hmmm.  Seems in Canada that as soon as the engineer puts a seal on
> the . > design, they are automatically liable for the competency of
> said design. . > The mechanical and electrical engineers likewise.
> 
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