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RE: Steel Detailing Charges

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Usually when this question comes up, the asker is incredulous that there
would be any additional detailing cost for changes. This one sounds like
it is on the other end of the spectrum, but I do have to admit that I
don't really know how much work would be involved.

I have some detailer friends who would likely be willing to share their
independent opinions on rough time estimates with me. I'll ask them and
get back to you with what I learn.

Charlie

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Gilligan [mailto:MarkKGilligan(--nospam--at)compuserve.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 2:46 AM
To: INTERNET:seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
Subject: Steel Detailing Charges

On a recent project there were some changes made during construction and
the Contractor has a valid claim for the changes to the steel work.  The
problem is that the Steel Detailer's part of the claim appears to be way
out of proportion to the amount of work.  As an example, when the
elevation
of the base plate changes the same amount in 10 similar columns they
claim
80 hours.  The detailer justifies this by presenting a list of seventeen
steps that they go through in making and checking each change and
listing
listing the time for each step.  In this manner they justify 8 hours to
change one column and then claim they repeat this process for each
column. 
 This approach can create a situation where the size of the claim for
relatively simple changes is way out of proportion to the total
detailing
fee.

 We appreciate the need for the steel detailer to work carefully but we
find these hours difficult to justify, to put it mildly.  We would
expect
that after the first column was revised that the subsequent hours per
column would be significantly reduced.  Remember we are changing the
elevation of the base plate but leaving the base plate detail alone.
The
problem is that challenging these hours appears to be difficult and the
detailer tends to be fairly successful with this approach.  I have seen
this happen on several projects over the years.

Has anybody had success in challenging these claims and identifying the
real costs and if so what has your strategy been.

Mark Gilligan

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