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Bill

Asking California engineers to take the exam based on the IBC, may sound like an exercise in futility. However, since the IBC provisions for wind and seismic design are very similar to the ASCE 7. When (a big when!) we adopt the next code, regardless of whether it's IBC or NFPA, we will be using essentially the same material that the exam is based on. So, those engineers who take the exam from now on, will actually be best prepared for the upcoming code change.

Ben Yousefi, SE
Santa Monica, CA

>>> T.W.Allen(--nospam--at)cox.net 05/12/04 09:45AM >>>
And, amazingly, this code (IBC) is currently not scheduled to be adopted by
CA, unless something has happened in Sacramento behind my back.

 

What a mess.

 

T. William (Bill) Allen, S.E. (CA #2607)

V/F (949) 248-8588

San Juan Capistrano, CA

http://www.AllenDesigns.com 

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NOTICE TO CANDIDATES OF THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEERS EXAM
May 2004

ENGINEERS IN CALIFORNIA TAKING THE SE EXAM WILL BE REQUIRED TO REFERENCE THE
2000 IBC BEGINNING IN OCTOBER 2004.  

WE REQUEST MEMBERS RECEIVING THIS NOTICE INFORM THEIR ASSOCIATES AND
FRIENDS, WHO PLAN TO TAKE THE EXAM, OF THIS IMPORTANT NEW REQUIREMENT.

PLEASE BEGIN BY POSTING A COPY OF THIS NOTICE ON YOUR COMPANY BULLETIN BOARD
AND FORWARDING THIS EMAIL NOTICE.  

IT IS IMPORTANT THIS MESSAGE BE DISTRIBUTED TO YOUNGER ENGINEERS BEYOND THE
SEAOSC MEMBERSHIP.

Information for engineers taking the exam in October 2004.

"Beginning with the October 2004 examination administration, Civil Engineers
wishing to use the title "Structural Engineer" will be required to pass both
a national structural engineering examination as well as a California
state-specific examination. Each examination will be 8 hours in length, for
a total of 16 hours, administered over two days. Each examination can be
passed separately."  From the BOPELS website.

While the 8-hour California exam will test on the 2001 California Building
Code, the 8-hour national portion of the SE exam will require reference to
the 2000 IBC.   Visit the California Board for Professional Engineers and
Land Surveyors website for details of California exam requirements at
http://www.dca.ca.gov/pels/.   Look for the notice dated 2-20-04 concerning
the SE exam.  Details of the national exam topics and reference standards
may be found on the NCEES website at
http://www.ncees.org/.   Study materials are available from NCEES.

For most engineers in California, the wind and seismic provisions of IBC
2000 will be especially unfamiliar and it is imperative that your
preparation begins well in advance of taking the exam.  Preparation should
begin with the review of the IBC and the fundamental source documents, NEHRP
and ASCE 7-98 for wind and seismic design and the materials standards for
general design as well as material specific wind and seismic design
requirements.  

Structural Design Standards

Following is an abbreviated list of reference standards from the NCEES
website.  Look for a link to "Structural Design Standards" for the detailed
list.

AASHTO, 2002 (highways and bridges)
ACI 318, 1999 (concrete)
ACI 530, 1999 and ACI 530.1 1999 (masonry)
AISC/ASD, 1989 or AISC/LRFD, 1994 (steel)
NDS, 1997 (ASD Only) Alternates listed on website (wood)
PCI Design Handbook, 1999 (precast/prestressed concrete)
ASCE 7 Minimum Design Loads for Buildings and Other Structures, 1998
IBC International Building Code, 2000 Edition (without supplements).  
Chapter 35 of the IBC provides a list of all standards referenced in
the IBC.

Note that IBC references national standards and you will need the standards
listed above.  Not mentioned on the NCEES website, but probably also needed
are:
1.    For seismic design of steel structures, AISC Seismic Provisions for
Structural Steel Buildings, 1997, including Supplement 1.  Hardcopies and
free downloaded pdf's and may be obtained from the AISC website at
http://aisc.org/.   
2.    For general, wind and seismic design, the AISI Specification for
Design of Cold-Formed Steel Structural Members, 1996, is referenced from IBC
Chapter 22 for.   This publication may be ordered from http://www.steel.org.
Search for the title under "Publications". 

Preparation
In addition to studying the design standards, the following resources are
available:

1.    Obtain FEMA 368 and 369, NEHRP Recommended Provisions for Seismic
Regulations for New Building and Other Structures, (Provisions and
commentary), 2000.  These documents will be helpful in understanding the IBC
Chapter 16 seismic provisions.  They may by downloaded as free pdf's from
the BSSC website: http://www.bssconline.org/index.html  Inexpensive
(shipping costs only) hardcopies may be ordered by calling 1-800-480-2520.

2.    Review Seismic Design Manuals for IBC 2000. They are available from
ICC web site at http://www.iccsafe.org.   

3.    Obtain and review study materials and sample questions available from
NCEES website.

4.     The January 2004 issue of Structural Engineer magazine has an article
written by S.K. Ghosh and John Henry that gives an overview with
explanations of the IBC seismic provisions.  

5.    Attend seminars concerning use of IBC 2000.  ACI is planning a seminar
for application of wind and seismic provisions to concrete construction.

5.    The February 2004 Macro Seminar presented by the SEAOSC Seismology
Committee included a presentation on the seismic provisions in ASCE 7-02
(similar methodology as ASCE7-98 and IBC 2000) with design examples and
comparisons the CBC 2001.  The Power Point presentation may be purchased
from the SEAOSC office by faxing (562-692-3425) or emailing
(seaosc(--nospam--at)seaint.org) the SEAOSC office.  Cost (including tax and shipping) is
$48.71 for members and $70.36 for non-members.  Include a credit card number
and expiration date along with an address where to ship the publication.
Credit card information may not be accepted via telephone.

Possible seminar

Seminars to familiarize engineers taking the October exam with IBC 2000 may
be offered by SEAOSC/SEAOC.   Though these will be intended for those taking
the exam, it would be of general interest to engineers.  

If you would be interested in receiving information and notices related to
the October exam, please email Bob Lyons at Rlyons(--nospam--at)BJASE.com.  Indicate
whether you would be interested in attending an exam preparation seminar and
if so, whether your interest is primarily in preparation for the exam or of
general interest.  If you wish to comment without being placed on the email
list, state so on you email.

Note that email notices and the exam preparation seminar will be available
to all interested engineers and not limited to SEAOC/SEAOSC members.

Additional information

Beginning with the April 2004 exam last month, the PE exam taken in
California also requires use of the 2000 IBC for the structural portion.
Future candidates for the PE may be interested in this information as well.


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