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That's nice to hear, I wish California would adopt similar legislation.


Paul Feather PE, SE
pfeather(--nospam--at)SE-Solutions.net
www.SE-Solutions.net
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rand Holtham, P.E." <rand(--nospam--at)sigmaengineers.com>
To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: designers


> Texas does not allow anyone to use Engineer in their title (except
graduate
> engineer for an EIT) or offer any kind of engineering explicit or implied
> (save some rights by Architects) nor can the word Architect be used by
> someone not licensed i.e. an engineer can do what would commonly be
referred
> to as architecture but he can't call it architecture.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul Feather" <pfeather(--nospam--at)SE-Solutions.net>
> To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 10:36 AM
> Subject: Re: designers
>
>
> MessageAndrew wrote:
>
> "Side note, I hate the term "designer" anyway, because in today's society
it
> goes thrown around a lot. It could be the guy at home depot that helps me
> pick out cabinets or a licensed interior designer. Everyone now is a
> designer of some type, could be of a porno page for all I know."
>
>
> Andrew,
>
> Thanks for a little levity on a Wednesday morning.  We have the same
issues,
> everyone appends the label "designer" to their title, often as a means of
> skirting registration laws.   We get Architectural Designers advertising
> what are essentially architectural services but they can not claim to be
an
> Architect.  In most cases these "designers" are actually demeaning the
> profession.
>
> But the one I really dis-like is when "Engineer" is used and abused.
> Unfortunately the title Engineer is not protected, only Registered
Engineer
> or Professional Engineer is protected.  I can't tell you how many job
sites
> have a PE (Project Engineer) whose knowledge of engineering ranks right up
> there with the bathroom attendant.  But it sure sounds impressive to an
> uneducated public.  You can pretty much call yourself an Engineer in
> virtually anything.
>
>
>
>
> Paul Feather PE, SE
> pfeather(--nospam--at)SE-Solutions.net
> www.SE-Solutions.net
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Andrew Kester
>   To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
>   Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 6:10 AM
>   Subject: designers
>
>
>   At my old A & E company the terms used for draftsmen (we use CAD Tech at
> my new office, which I prefer) were often confusing. That was in part
> because like someone else said, architects out of school call themselves
> architectural designers. I have heard to use the term "Architect" implies
> AIA certification and that is why they did not use that term (illegal),
they
> had to throw in "designer". They do not have the same EI type designation
> that we have.
>
>   Anyway, if you are looking for a draftmen, I have found CAD Techs with a
2
> year degree to be fine, and without that the experience is what matters. I
> don't know if our best CAD Techs have degrees but it does not matter. They
> know Autocad and they know how a building is put together, that is what is
> important. If someone with 15 years of experience sent me their resume
> versus 2 year degree and no experience guess who I am going with?
>
>   If the architects in your office want to hire a young architect to help
> both departments in CAD and also groom them to become an architect, then
you
> need an architectural degree. I guess talk amongst yourselves and find out
> what you really want and need.
>
>   My 2 pesos...
>
>   Andrew Kester, PE
>   Longwood, FL
>
>
>
>
>
>
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