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Ditto for Ontario except for operating and stationary
engineers.
Gary

On 19 May 2004 at 11:07, Rand Holtham, P.E. wrote:

> Texas does not allow anyone to use Engineer in their title (except
> graduate engineer for an EIT) or offer any kind of engineering
> explicit or implied (save some rights by Architects) nor can the word
> Architect be used by someone not licensed i.e. an engineer can do what
> would commonly be referred to as architecture but he can't call it
> architecture.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul Feather" <pfeather(--nospam--at)SE-Solutions.net>
> To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 10:36 AM
> Subject: Re: designers
> 
> 
> MessageAndrew wrote:
> 
> "Side note, I hate the term "designer" anyway, because in today's
> society it goes thrown around a lot. It could be the guy at home depot
> that helps me pick out cabinets or a licensed interior designer.
> Everyone now is a designer of some type, could be of a porno page for
> all I know."
> 
> 
> Andrew,
> 
> Thanks for a little levity on a Wednesday morning.  We have the same
> issues, everyone appends the label "designer" to their title, often as
> a means of skirting registration laws.   We get Architectural
> Designers advertising what are essentially architectural services but
> they can not claim to be an Architect.  In most cases these
> "designers" are actually demeaning the profession.
> 
> But the one I really dis-like is when "Engineer" is used and abused.
> Unfortunately the title Engineer is not protected, only Registered
> Engineer or Professional Engineer is protected.  I can't tell you how
> many job sites have a PE (Project Engineer) whose knowledge of
> engineering ranks right up there with the bathroom attendant.  But it
> sure sounds impressive to an uneducated public.  You can pretty much
> call yourself an Engineer in virtually anything.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Feather PE, SE
> pfeather(--nospam--at)SE-Solutions.net
> www.SE-Solutions.net
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Andrew Kester
>   To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
>   Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 6:10 AM
>   Subject: designers
> 
> 
>   At my old A & E company the terms used for draftsmen (we use CAD
>   Tech at
> my new office, which I prefer) were often confusing. That was in part
> because like someone else said, architects out of school call
> themselves architectural designers. I have heard to use the term
> "Architect" implies AIA certification and that is why they did not use
> that term (illegal), they had to throw in "designer". They do not have
> the same EI type designation that we have.
> 
>   Anyway, if you are looking for a draftmen, I have found CAD Techs
>   with a 2
> year degree to be fine, and without that the experience is what
> matters. I don't know if our best CAD Techs have degrees but it does
> not matter. They know Autocad and they know how a building is put
> together, that is what is important. If someone with 15 years of
> experience sent me their resume versus 2 year degree and no experience
> guess who I am going with?
> 
>   If the architects in your office want to hire a young architect to
>   help
> both departments in CAD and also groom them to become an architect,
> then you need an architectural degree. I guess talk amongst yourselves
> and find out what you really want and need.
> 
>   My 2 pesos...
> 
>   Andrew Kester, PE
>   Longwood, FL
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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