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- To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>, <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
- Subject: RE: SECB Certification Program for SE's
- From: Neil Moore <nmoore(--nospam--at)innercite.com>
- Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 21:18:35 -0700
I'm an old guy and grandfathering makes me very nervous! We're having enough problems with bad civils doing structural work now. There are many good civils that can pass the SE test easily, but a lot of them don't like being litigation targets or they are running their company and don't have time to prepare for the 16 hour test.
Years ago I help grade some of the SE exams and a number of us were wondering how some of the applicants passed the civil exam in the first place.
Neil Moore, S.E.
grandfather of seven
At 08:33 PM 6/23/2004 -0600, Jake Watson wrote:
As many of you know, I am most certainly not the oldest engineer reading this list. I have a particularly loaded question. How does grand-fathering help anyone (beyond those being grand-fathered)? I understand that the assumption is that anyone grand-fathered supposedly already meets all the new requirements. For example, it is assumed that they would pass any exam with flying colors. It seems to me, that if they so easily meet the new standards, why can't they prove it just like all the younger engineers?
Yes, this is a bit of sour grapes. However, here is Utah there are many "senior" engineers who where grand-fathered and given an S.E. license when our law passed several years ago. I wouldn't trust several of these guys to design a tooth-pick. Now I am required to pass a fairly difficult exam to be considered an "equal" to these guys? How is a new client who has never used either of us to know the difference (besides his fee is 1/3 of mine)?
Jake Watson, P.E.
Salt Lake City, UT
- -----Original Message-----
- From: Nels Roselund, SE [mailto:njineer(--nospam--at)att.net]
- Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 7:00 PM
- To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
- Subject: SECB Certification Program for SE's
- I've received an announcement that NCSEA has voted to establish an independent national SE certification board [SECB] to help establish SE licensing in all 50 states; establish uniform standards for examinations, licensure and practice throughout the U.S.; and define education and training levels for SE Licensure.
- The letter is from SECB and requests prepayment of certification fees, projected to be $350; as initial capitalization for SECB.
- Is this a broadly supported effort? Is it likely to be endorsed by State Boards of Registration? Is this an program that all good SE's should support, ignore, or wait and see?
- Nels Roselund
- Structural Engineer
- South San Gabriel, CA
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