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RE: Dropping the ball (was Non-structural component callouts)

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Cliff, while I agree with you as to the "intent" of what the architect is
"supposed" to do, the structural engineer has to be realistic and realize
that the engineer must also be proactive regarding making sure features
essential to structural integrity are addressed. 

I work on water and wastewater treatment projects - rather than an architect
doing the leading, we have engineers who are Project Managers doing the
leading. They are supposed to "quarterback" for the design team as you
suggest - but reality is that they may not be as keenly aware of the
importance of some items as the structural engineer is. Thus, I consider as
part of my QA checking for structural work to also verify that others are
addressing the things that I consider essential to the proper functioning of
my own work. Of course, that takes extra time and I am constantly fighting
the "battle of the budget" to complete the level of quality that I feel is

In my opinion, the constant reduction of fees and budgets is currently the
biggest threat to quality in structural engineering. (I've got a talk I can
give on that subject as well.) 

William C. Sherman, PE 
(Bill Sherman) 
CDM, Denver, CO
Phone: 303-298-1311
Fax: 303-293-8236
email: shermanwc(--nospam--at)

Clifford Schwinger wrote: 

> Subject: Dropping the ball (was Non-structural component callouts)
> You asked, "Does the architect assume any responsibility for 
> reviewing these items?" 
> The answer is YES!!!!! The architect on most projects is 
> supposed to be the "quarterback" for the design team. It was 
> always my understanding that the architect was supposed to 
> proactively lead the design team, make sure all consultants 
> were aware of the everything they needed to know on the 
> project and make sure everyone was communicating with 
> everyone else on the design team. One of the architectural 
> "quarterback's" primary duties was to see that the design 
> team functioned as a well-oiled machine so that the project 
> owner recieved a complete and coordinated set of contract 
> documents that documented a well-designed project. 
> Unfortunately, the most of the quarterbacks have "dropped the 
> ball" - and it seems that many of today's architectural 
> quarterbacks don't even want to touch the ball. 

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