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RE: Bar Joists parallel to masonry walls

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I have used a variation of Harold's WT in the past: The web of the WT is
placed horizontally in the bed joint with the welded studs projecting
downward into a horizontal bond beam. (Actually, I have used welded plates,
but a WT could be used as well.) The deck support angle is welded to the
flanges of the spaced WT's at the face of CMU wall. (The WT's are typically
spaced at 48" oc.) 

William C. Sherman, PE 
(Bill Sherman) 
CDM, Denver, CO
Phone: 303-298-1311
Fax: 303-293-8236
email: shermanwc(--nospam--at)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Grill [mailto:jgrill(--nospam--at)] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 12:46 PM
> To: seaint(--nospam--at)
> Subject: RE: Bar Joists parallel to masonry walls
> Harold,
> What considerations should be taken if the WT's are located 
> at the same coursing as horizontal wall reinforcing?  It 
> seems that if 2 horizontal bars are used that one bar would 
> be interrupted at the locations of the WT's.  I guess only a 
> single horizontal bar could be used or an additional line of 
> horizontal reinforcing could be located above or below the WT.
> Joe Grill
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Sprague [mailto:spraguehope(--nospam--at)]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 10:44 AM
> To: seaint(--nospam--at)
> Subject: Re: Bar Joists parallel to masonry walls
> Joe,
> Yes.  I like the open ended CMU's and since US Army Corps of 
> Engineers generally requires "A" blocks, they are easily 
> obtained.  I generally use a WT 3 x 9 x 0'-7 5/8".  The 
> length is the same as the height of the CMU.  The
> DBA's or headed studs are welded to the web of the WT with 
> flare welds and positioned so that they clear the face shell 
> of the CMU.  The WT web acts as
> a shear lug for shears in the plane of the wall.  The WT's 
> are spaced at whatever the angle will span, but at some 
> increment of 16".  The studs or DBA's take care of the out of 
> plane forces.  The continuous angle provides gravity support 
> and serves as a diaphram chord.  The masons and iron workers
> find this solution very easy.  I find it to be a very robust 
> connection.
> Regards,
> Harold Sprague

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