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    I don't know all the reasons for the Texas law, but I am wondering if part of the reason for the law is that the work performed by the engineering intern would count toward his receiving a PE. If you are not "regularly present" to supervise his work, the benefit an intern would receive from working under a PE could be lessened. Currently, I work with a fair amount of independence; but if any question arises, I can drop into my boss's office and get him to take a quick look at what I am doing. Also, when a set of drawings is near to being ready to release for construction, we sit down and go over the drawings. I can't image getting the same benefit from looking at a marked up drawing that I downloaded from a server. Depending on the size of the projects you work on, I can image that you could keep good quality control on the work performed by an intern, but I doubt that the intern would receive as much benefit as he would from a more traditional working environment.
Wesley C. Werner, EIT
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Polhemus [mailto:bill(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 11:23 AM
To: 'Caldwell, Stan'
Cc: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: RE: O.T.: "VPN and Document 'Check Out'"

So do I get this straight?


If I ever leave the building while anything that will ultimately have my seal on it has work done by someone else, I have “violated the TEPA”?


Or are you saying that as long as everyone is under one roof, organizationally speaking, that’s okay?


Either you have converted to ultraorthodox Judaism, or you “brick and mortar” engineering firm-types are trying to protect your turf against advancing technology that threatens you with competition.


I’ll put my mode of working up against anyone’s. And no, I don’t think I have to ask the permission of the TBPE before I do my job. If they try to play rough, then we’ll go to court. I’m not afraid of that prospect, because someone may have to be the “hero” in this, if what I think is happening here, is really happening.


And with profound apologies, I AM posting this to the list because I think this concerns everyone.


Maybe my medication is still affecting my brain, but I could have sworn this sounded like a veiled threat.


Sorry if I’m mistaken, but that’s the way I’m reading this.


From: Caldwell, Stan [mailto:scaldwell(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 10:04 AM
To: bill(--nospam--at)
Subject: RE: O.T.: "VPN and Document 'Check Out'"




You will note that this response is just to you, not to the list.


With all due respect, your opinion of what constitutes direct supervision is irrelevant.  All that counts is what the members and staff of TBPE think, and their opinion is pretty clear from their enforcement action against Mr. Perge (as I posted last April).  If nothing else, at least call Paul Cook or C. W. Clark at TBPE, tell them what you plan to do, get their response, and then (if positive) write down a record of the conversation and send it to them.