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# Re: concrete pipe barrel strength

• To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
• Subject: Re: concrete pipe barrel strength
• From: Daryl Richardson <h.d.richardson(--nospam--at)shaw.ca>
• Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:16:03 -0600

```Jen,

There are formulae in Roark: "Formulas for Stress and Strain" for ring
structures which can be combined using superposition to solve the mathematical
problem you are examining.  However, due to variation in compaction around the
pipe (and possibly other input data) it is (in my opinion) unlikely that these
will give you an accurate solution to the problem.

If this is a significant building I would personally prefer place a new,
deeper, footing on each side of the pipe and have the foundation wall (or a new
grade beam associated with the foundation wall) span the pipe without

You can also use piles on either side of the pipe and connected to the
foundation wall.  This may seem a bit exotic; but I've seen it used to
facilitate the removal of environmentally contaminated soil from beneath a
building.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

Regards,

H. Daryl Richardson

> I've been asked to analyze two stormwater pipes under an existing building.
> The one in question runs 5' below an exterior column of the building.  I've
> calculated the force exerted on the pipe at this depth but I need to
> determine if the concrete pipe is strong enough to handle the load from
> above.  Does anyone know of a reference for calculating this information?
> I've searched the internet and I also have a concrete pipe handbook from the
> American Concrete Pipe Association that I've been searching through, but
> haven't come across anything helpful yet. I thought there would be a table
> with this information but haven't found one yet. I don't know the
> manufacturer of the pipe but I might call some randoms to see if they have
> this info- just thought I'd check here first.
> Any pertinent info much appreciated
> tia
>
> Structural Design Engineer
>
> Trico Engineering Consultants, Inc.
> Ph: 843-740-7700 Fax: 843-740-7707
>
> http://www.tricoengineering.com/
>
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