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- To: "Scott Maxwell" <smaxwell(--nospam--at)engin.umich.edu>
- Subject: RE: Eagle Engineer
- From: "Stuart, Matthew" <mstuart(--nospam--at)schoordepalma.com>
- Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:30:49 -0400
- Cc: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
Title: RE: Eagle Engineer
Sent: Tue 9/14/2004 5:00 PM
To: Stuart, Matthew
Subject: RE: Eagle Engineer
I apologize if I get a little annoying in this
I am wondering how your 30 years of experience relates to a particular
situation that you likely know very little about. I think that Andrew's
(as he kind further articulated in another post) was your "jump to a
conclusion" based upon the appearance that this situation met the same
criteria as those in your 30 years of experience even though you had no
real "evidence" to back up that assumption. As a "counter-example", I am
sure that you would be little insulted by someone who in their 30 years of
experience had learned that people who made such comments as you did were
bigotted or racist (NOTE: I _DO NOT_ think such a thing of you since I
don't really know you, but know that there are people that would make that
To be honest, the same thought crossed my mind as what you articulated (I
don't have 30 years of experience but I have experienced it), but I did
not articulate it largley because I checked that thought quickly as I
realized that I know nothing about this particular situation. Does "it
look like a duck and quack like a duck" (i.e. look and sound suspicious)?
You bet. But, contrary to the saying, it is NOT necessarily a "duck".
Now, in being honest that the same thought crossed my mind, I must also be
honest that _IF_ I had articulated that thought aloud to the list, then I
would have also expected a response back like Andrew's.
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004, Stuart, Matthew wrote:
> However insulting you may find my comment to be it is based on my own personal observations over the past 30 years or so during my private practice all over the U.S.
> Matthew Stuart
> Structural Dept. - Manalapan
> 732-577-9889 x1283
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Kester [mailto:akester(--nospam--at)bbma.com]
> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 2:14 PM
> To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> Subject: Eagle Engineer
> I did not see on his website where he claimed to be a PE, but I do like Cliff's theory. Perhaps between memorizing hundreds of plays and watching hours of tape in between practices, he is running some RAM models on his lap top.
> "Maybe the guy is actually participating in some project work, I don't = know. But more than likely he is just a majority owner, which allows = his firm to satisfy any DBE or MBE requirements for projects that in = turn puts the other guy in the picture to work."
> However, this comment I find to be a bit presumptuous and insulting, as if to say this guy is only listed as an owner for a minority handout. If it was a white guy doing the same thing everyone would comment on his entrepeneurialship. A better point may be that he uses his fame, status, and million dollar paychecks to invest and promote a healthy business. Seems pretty smart to me whether he is there every day or not, he is carving out a nice career for himself when his body gives out and he has 30 more years to fill up with something besides golf and frozen drinks next to the pool.....
> Andrew Kester, PE
> Longwood, FL
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