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Since Nels reminded me of one of my past bits of occasional wisdom, I
looked it up in the archive (partly because I didn't recall being wise
[hey, I guess everyone has their 15 minutes of "fame" right?] and partly
because I was interested in what I said) and I found it.  Here is the

Beyond that, I do have some class notes from the stability of earth masses
course that I mention in that previous message.  I can fax you some of the
information on breast walls if that would help.  Also, in my course pack
is a Standard Rock Wall Construction Guidelines from the Associated
Rockery Contractors (ARC).  It might be of some use.  The ARC is located
in Woodinville, WA (according to what I have which is rather dated).  The
phone number listed in the rather dated publication is (206) 481-3456 or
(206) 481-7222.  I don't know if any of that contact information is still
valid or not.


Adrian, MI

On Mon, 20 Sep 2004, Nels Roselund, SE wrote:

> Joe,
> I've looked into dry-stacked stone retaining walls and have found little
> that has been useful.
> It seems like I once found a City of Seattle Standard; I seem to have
> misplaced it.  As I recall, it was a system of stones of varying size: the
> bottom stones were required to be very large.  It was not at all like the
> old walls that I had seen, that appeared to consist of fairly uniform sized
> stones bottom-to-top.
> I have concluded that most dry-stacked stone walls that appear to be
> retaining walls, in reality, function as slope protection against erosion.
> The slope behind the wall needs to be stable.
> That said, here are a couple of references.
> 1.  The Art and Craft of Stonescaping by David Reed, published 2000 by Lark
> Books, a division of Sterling Publishing [I got it from].  This
> has a chapter titled Dry-Stacked Retaining Walls, but it is not an
> engineering book.  It is illustrated with photos that are really good.
> 2.  The Art of the Stonemason by Ian Cramb, published 1992 by Betterway
> Books [also from Amazon].  This is a fascinating book, and will make you
> want to start building stone walls yourself, learning from the example of an
> enthusiastic and skilled mentor that the author clearly is.
> In March, 2003, Michael Hemstad, and Scott Maxwell each posted some emails
> with guidance on stone retaining walls -- they should be in the Archives.  I
> printed them and stuck them in one of my books, so I could fax them to you
> if you'd like -- let me know.
> Nels Roselund
> Structural Engineer
> South San Gabriel, CA
> njineer(--nospam--at)
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Joe Grill
>   To: seaint(--nospam--at)
>   Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 4:07 PM
>   Subject: Dry Stack Rock Wall
>   I have a client that wishes to do some retaining walls for landscaping
> using rock from the project site.  In one instance there is a lower wall
> that is 5' high and batters about 2'.  The grade steps back from the top of
> the lower lift about 2' where the upper lift of wall starts and is also
> about 5' high with a batter of about 2'.  I would think this can be done,
> but, I don't have any references that address the design for a dry rock
> stack retaining wall such as this.  I've looked through my library and
> checked the Corps of Engineers site, but didn't see anything there, unless I
> just missed it.  Does anyone have a reference for this situation or any
> suggestions?
>   Thanks,
>   Joe Grill

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