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very true, but how many architects have "common sense"
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daryl Richardson" <h.d.richardson(--nospam--at)shaw.ca>
To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: professional Practice with a segue...


> Ray,
>
>         I thought the dimes spec was a hoot.
>
>         If it's being takes seriously I don't think it could fly in
Canada.  I
> expect  it would be against the law to use legal tender in this way.  It's
> certainly against the law to melt down coins when the value of the metal
exceeds
> the face value of the coins;  This was confirmed when copper and silver
actually
> were being used for money.
>
> Regards,
>
> H. Daryl Richardson
>
> Ray Pixley wrote:
>
> > My posting was a little glib.  But I did run it past some lawyer
friends,
> > who liked the dilemma it presents.
> >
> > What you have here is a conflict between applying strict intrepretation
> > verses common sense.  Since you admit that the reason for specifying
dimes
> > that way was to make sure the contractor read them, then it was never
> > needed.  Thus, a common sense determination is that the contractor owes
the
> > engineer an apology, but not a credit.  However, if the engineer insists
on
> > a credit, then the contractor knows for sure that the engineer probably
has
> > no common sense.
> >
> > In terms of lessons learned, what you get from this story is a way of
> > determining whether a entity knows the difference between common sense
and
> > strict interpretation.  There are, of course, questions on how this
practice
> > may affect competitive bidding, etc.  But I leave that discussion to
others.
> >   Good luck to all who use it, with care, of course.
> >
> > Now if the dimes were primarily needed for corrosion protection ....
> >
> > P.S.: Ken De Lapp's 10/20/04 2:45 PM posting is essentially the same
> > dilemma.
> >
> > >From: "Jordan Truesdell, PE" <seaint(--nospam--at)truesdellengineering.com>
> > >Reply-To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
> > >To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
> > >Subject: RE: professional Practice with a segue...
> > >Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:16:01 -0400
> > >
> > >At 08:37 AM 10/20/2004 -0400, you wrote:
> > >>The change order didn't include credit for the labor cost?   (Someone
has
> > >>to put those dimes down, and someone else has to do a survey to make
sure
> > >>they were placed 12" O/C, etc.)
> > >>
> > >
> > >I think they agreed to "waive" the additional labor and fees, as a
gesture
> > >of good will ;-)
> > >Like I said, I don't remember the exact outcome, but it did involve a
> > >credit.
> > >
> > >
> > >Jordan Truesdell, PE
> > >
> > >
> > >
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