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Eli, interesting article. Sad but true.
My own conversations regarding the "facts" with many Bush supporters (I'm registered Republican, and I live in a very conservative semi-rural county, so these are my folks here) are met with vigorous denials and distrust of "the media" in general. When I refer to the CIA report, historical works and references, and the 9/11 commission documents to point out that there's another side to the story besides what the Administration feeds us, it is all distrusted as either "the lying media" or "left wing spin". It is the near-mindless desire to refute anything but what they want to hear that has convinced me to vote outside of my Republican Party to the personal dismay of many close friends and family. The rebuttals start with 'name calling' of the candidate and 'labeling' of the candidate's position, amazingly and not coincidentally with the very 'names' and 'labels' that on-air commentators and radio talk show hosts use, and then drift into divisive religious arguments. This election campaign is not pretty, it's downright the ugliest I've ever seen. It's gone so far that an unnamed Christian leader that my wife listens to on the air for child psychology advice actually states in his newsletter and on his organization's website that his listeners should elect a candidate that will engage in pre-emptive war. I'm shocked. I never imagined a Christian leader would espouse that philosophy. WWJD? Wow.
-----Original Message-----
From: Eli Grassley [mailto:elig(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 12:46 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: RE: Opinions of an Egyptian American

Stephen –

This poll result might help explain some of the confusion …


WASHINGTON, D.C. Oct 21 – Three out of four self-described supporters of President George W. Bush (news - web sites) still believe that pre-war Iraq (news - web sites) had weapons of mass destruction (WMD) or active programs to produce them and that Iraqi President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) provided “substantial support” to al Qaeda, according to a new survey released here Thursday. Moreover, as many or more Bush supporters hold those beliefs today than they did several months ago, before the publication of a series of well-publicized official government reports that debunked both notions.




-----Original Message-----
From: ECVAl3(--nospam--at) [mailto:ECVAl3(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 9:07 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Re: Opinions of an Egyptian American


"While I can understand your point of view on Vietnam (and some of the
similarities to Iraq), there's one big difference between 1966 and now - the
Viet Cong didn't take down the WTC."  T. William (Bill) Allen


Excuse me? Did I miss something or is it really true that Iraq was responsible for the distruction of the WTC on 9/11?

Stephen Macie, P.E.