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Probably not an oversight...more than likely lack of money (or priority to
shift the money to repairing bridges) to do the job.

This problem exists BIG time in Michigan (where we use salt...boy do we
use salt...of course, it helps that we have salt mines under the City of
Detroit area).  There are lots of bridges that are "lacking" in maintance.
Bridge maintance was largely put on the back burner for a LONG time in the
recent BOTH political parties.  There has been more of an effort
in the recent years (kind of helps get money for bridge projects when
chucks on concrete fall on the highways and cars).  But there is still a
long way to go here.

Some of this is tied to the transporation spending bill that has been tied
up in Congress this year.  There were three different versions with three
different amounts...the House one, the Senate one, and the amount that the
President would agree to...both the House version and Senate version were
higher than what Bush wanted so the treatened veto by Bush caused it to
die with only an extension of current funding going through for now.  So,
it will likely be revisited with the new Congress...much to the chagrin of
many DOTs and construction businesses that wanted it done to help spur
construction (and likely create jobs).  Two of the issues holding things
up some where equity of distribution of the federal money (i.e. minimizing
"donor states"...those states that pay more in federal gas taxes than they
get back in federal transporation funds) and local "pet projects" (i.e.
pork) that only LOOSELY had anything to do with transporation.


Adrian, MI

On Mon, 6 Dec 2004, David Maynard wrote:

> It's my understanding that ALL bridges fall under D.O.T. jurisdiction and
> should have some sort of inspection procedure for them.  This may be an
> oversight.  Should someone point this situation out???
> Dave Maynard, PE
> Gillette, Wyoming
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: S. Gordin [mailto:mailbox(--nospam--at)]
>   Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 11:21 AM
>   To: Seaint@Seaint. Org
>   Subject: existing bridge
>   The past weekend I was in New Jersey.  On my way back to JFK, I noticed
> that paint on the towers of the magnificent Verrazano Narrows Bridge is
> peeling, exposing the corroding metal.  AFAIK, the renovation of the bridge
> was supposed to be completed in 2003. Yet isn't this bridge - like,
> apparently, the Golden Gate Bridge - supposed to be in the permanent state
> of re-painting?
>   Further east (at 4 pm on Sunday), Belt Parkway looked more like a parking
> lot, so I had a chance to take a closer look at the underbelly of several
> vehicular steel overpasses.  On one of those, I saw a vertical member (may
> be, 1" thick) of the bridge bearing being rusted through with a hole, may
> be, 6" in diameter, apparently, going all the way to - and, may be, into -
> the bearing plate.
>   My question to the NYC colleagues is - how are these problems being
> addressed?
>   V. Steve Gordin, PhD
>   Registered Structural Engineer
>   Irvine CA
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