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Maybe one or two lawyers a year could be named "a--h--e"
of the year, and dunked in a pond (if it isn't against
environmental regulations) like they did in the 1600's,
juste pour encourager les autres.
Gary


On 19 Jan 2005 at 16:43, Jim Wilson wrote:

> On the flip side, isn't this a little bit ridiculous
> with so many requirements being imposed on a
> responsible structural engineer?  Thorough and
> concerned engineers are going to shy away from more
> and more projects because there are too many ways we
> can be held responsible for the actions of others.  I
> know that isn't the intent, but it will be the result.
>  I for one am beginning to second guess a lot of the
> projects I routinely do after reading all of these
> conversations about SERs and not being able to isolate
> your responsibility to just one part of a project.
> 
> Joe Engineer down the street is going to feast on all
> of these jobs if we turn them down, perhaps out of
> ignorance or out of disregard for the finer points of
> the code.  And that isn't helping anyone, except maybe
> Joe E.  Unfortunately, we can't afford to wait for the
> perfect projects to come along.  Sometimes you have to
> accept more risk that you would like, for the sake of
> keeping the work flow going.
> 
> Maybe I am reading too much into these conversations,
> but they really make me think twice about my actions. 
> And that's not a bad thing.
> 
> Jim Wilson, PE
> Stroudsburg, PA
> 
> 
> --- Ted Ryan <coffeemonkey100(--nospam--at)hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I don't know much more then what I have said, but it
> > is something that has
> > been rumored concerning the IBC.
> > 
> > Ted Ryan
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sherman, William" <ShermanWC(--nospam--at)cdm.com>
> > To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 11:48 AM
> > Subject: RE: Who is the EOR?
> > 
> > 
> > Ted Ryan wrote:
> > > soon, it will be mandated in the code that there
> > must be a EOR,
> > > there can't be multiple engineers with none of
> > them acting as the EOR.
> > 
> > Could you elaborate in this? Which code(s),
> > sections? What is the
> > proposed wording?
> > 
> > 
> > William C. Sherman, PE
> > (Bill Sherman)
> > CDM, Denver, CO
> > Phone: 303-298-1311
> > Fax: 303-293-8236
> > email: shermanwc(--nospam--at)cdm.com
> > 
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