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There's "situations" and then there's "situations."  One may be below code (aren't most buildings of  any age at all in some way below code?) and another may be ready to collapse on the occupants--an "imminent danger."  I believe we have an obligation, legal and moral, to do something about the latter, but we see the former almost every minute of every day (I live in one!) and can hardly be expected to constantly "save the world." 

It's a matter of degree.

I once noticed two-story-tall brick walls standing unbraced along a city sidewalk (after a long-ago fire had gutted the building) and raised the issue.  I was told it was "old business" and "had been taken care of."  It remained that way for years before being demolished.  

I was also involved in a situation MANY years ago where my firm recommended city-required earthquake improvements to a 6-story masonry building.  The owner said if we pushed it they'd close the company, fire the hundreds of employees, and leave town.  Needless to say the building was not strengthened. 


In a message dated 3/16/05 1:32:49 PM, awilliams(--nospam--at) writes:
I thought that as Professional Engineers we had a responsibility to protect the publics safety.  I also thought that several recent court cases indicated that an inaction on the part of a person of knowledge (say a PE) who was aware of a situation and did nothing was tantamount to, oh, what the word, negligence?


My thought would be to contact the owner and/or design professional and send him the picture anonymously.


Besides, It ain't libel if it's true.  Of course there is truth and court truth.


Wow, what a screwed up mess we have made of the engineering professions.





-----Original Message-----
From: John Riley [mailto:jriley(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 2:55 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)

Is this a valid equation:          showing pictures = badmouthing


Unfortunately I'm afraid (as a non-lawyer) that you have about as much right to badmouth a builder on your blog as someone else has to badmouth your engineering skills on his blog. 

I'd be careful, especially if your pockets are shallower than the builder's.


In a message dated 3/15/05 7:52:31 PM, dennis.wish(--nospam--at) writes:

I would like to post pictures of these types of issues to bring them to the attention of the community and builders. Am I allowed to stand on the street and photograph this sloppy work including the developers advertisement and publish it on my Blog? If anyone has this type of information that can help me please let me know. In the mean time, I have dozens of shots (or more) that should be publicized as what not to do.