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Ah good, Christopher, a logical argument for protection-
ism, with some historical perspective.
Gary


On 15 Mar 2005 at 10:40, Christopher Wright wrote:

> 
> On Mar 15, 2005, at 7:03 AM, Ken Peoples wrote:
> 
> > Bethlehem Steel site, if we have another "big one", we will have to 
> > drop
> > quarters on the enemy.
> This therad kind of hops back and forth between personal economic 
> consequences and the national interest issues of our so-called 'free 
> trade policy.' We ought to try to distinguish one from the other, 
> because they're not the same
> 
> Maybe no one remembers, but the original excuse for all this concern 
> over free trade was not a better life for all people everywhere, but 
> the fact that Asian markets were pretty much closed to American 
> products. Bush 41 went to Japan and got some concessions despite 
> barfing on the Japanese prime minister, and despite the fact that even 
> with the concessions not many Japanese actually wanted Chryslers 
> anywhere near as much as Americans want Hondas. The big target, if 
> memory serves was Chinese markets--2 billion people lusting after all 
> the stuff we can sell them. But it hasn't worked out like that, has it 
> folks? We're still carrying record trade deficits, and the largest is 
> with China. Instead of  greater access to US goods, it's the Chinese 
> who are selling stuff here, and aggravated matters with currency 
> control to keep prices artificially lower.
> 
> Interesting story came up in the Minneapolis paper a couple of weeks 
> ago, to the effect that the US only has two surviving domestic boot 
> manufacturers, Red Wing here in Minnesota and one other. Almost all ouf 
> our every day clothing and shoes come from China. The personal 
> economics of it all is that I can buy serviceable sneakers in Target or 
> Kohls that are cheap enough to replace every few months.  I wear my Red 
> Wing boots wherever it cold or wet or I'm tramping through snow or 
> shelled corn, and I think it's fair to say that they're the best boots 
> I've ever worn. But I'm sure I've spent more money on cheap imported 
> sneakers over the time I've owned the Red Wings.
> 
> OTOH I don't think it is in our national interest to be so dependent on 
> potentially hostile offshore sources for manufactured goods of any 
> kind. If as Ken says, we start butting heads with the China over Taiwan 
> or North Korea, we stand to lose access to a lot of the manufactures we 
> depend on. Not only sneakers and blue jeans, but electronic items and 
> car parts: we don't make these any more. The Wintel computers that help 
> run aircraft carriers are made in Asia--so is my Mac.
> 
> And it does make me wonder who's making the boots and uniforms and 
> combat fatigues our military requires. Or whether China might be able 
> to back us into a corner over manufactured goods like we backed the 
> Japanese into a corner over supplies of oil for the Imperial Navy in 
> 1941.
> 
> Christopher Wright P.E. |"They couldn't hit an elephant at
> chrisw(--nospam--at)skypoint.com   | this distance" (last words of Gen.
> .......................................| John Sedgwick, Spotsylvania 
> 1864)
> http://www.skypoint.com/~chrisw/
> 
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