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Also, from the beginning we are taught that this profession is not about
making money.

I remember vividly going to a world class firm in San Francisco as a college
student. The main principle said (paraphrased):

"We are not in this to make money. We just want to do work on great
structures and do the best job possible."

Basically saying, don't lose money, feel good about our work, and go home
everyday. That's great, but it's not a bad thing to make a decent profit
either. If that truly is the attitude of a firm that designs extremely
complicated buildings worldwide, it forces it's competition to take the same
approach or they vanish.

Hey, I'd like to retire at 40 like a dentist too with 3 houses, 6 cars, and
two boats, but it won't happen.

-gm



-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Polhemus [mailto:bill(--nospam--at)polhemus.cc] 
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:13 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
Subject: Re: I Got Th' "Eagle Done Flew" Blues!

Arvel L. Williams, P.E. wrote:

>Paul,
>
>Amen and pass the gunpowder.
>
>Arvel
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paul Feather [mailto:pfeather(--nospam--at)SE-Solutions.net]
>Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 3:37 PM
>To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
>Subject: Re: I Got Th' "Eagle Done Flew" Blues!
>
>
>Personally, I do not consider $150 high.
>
>My tax lawyer $250
>My contracts attorney  $350
>My accountant $250
>
>The guy who operated the backhoe in my yard, $150
>
>I wont even bring in doctors, dentists
>  
>
See, this is an extension of what I was complaining about to begin with.

Can you imagine this guy sending back a partial payment to his attorney, 
and complaining "your fees are just outrageous, I'm not paying a penny 
more!"

It just will never happen.

Until we as S.E.s stand together in the SAME WAY that other professions 
do, and insist on fair value for our work we're going nowhere.

Reminds me of the anecdote about the man who went to the dentist for 
some work. Before he went in to see the Doctor, the accounts manager 
went over the cost of what they were going to do. He was shocked, and 
wandered into the examining room in a daze.

When the Dentist came in, the man had been brooding about the bill for 
some time. As the Dentist prepared to go to work, the man took the 
opportunity to rail about how ridiculous the cost of the procedure was. 
"Good grief, you're only going to be installing a single cotton-pickin' 
crown! It's not like major surgery or anything! How much can that stuff 
cost? How much time could it possibly take? This is just outrageous! 
I'll bet you have a huge home, drive an expensive car and belong to the 
country club!" On and on he went.

The Dentist said nothing for awhile, then excused himself. He was gone a 
few moments, then returned with a shoe box. Inside were some dental 
appliance materials and various dental instruments.

"I'm sorry, sir," the Dentist said, handing the man the box. "I didn't 
realize you wanted the do-it-yourself kit! That's only $49.99. Pay at 
the front, and good luck with your procedure!"

-- 
Bill Polhemus, P.E.
Polhemus Engineering Company
http://www.polhemus.cc/


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