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From what I understand, the SECB was created by NCSEA… there is information and links on the NCSEA website regarding it. 


Seems like a move in the right direction to me, but I don’t want to fork over $350… especially since I already have my SE registration, so I haven’t really tried to understand the SECB.  As I understand, for engineers licensed in states without SE licensure or who haven’t taken the SE 1 / 2 exams, this is a way to show clients you are qualified to practice structural engineering and not some other engineer who has little structural experience, but is legally allowed to design structures.  In Missouri, you are licensed as an engineer… of course you are required to practice in your area of competence.


National licensure is a long way off (if ever) but, as I understand, this is a national certification separate from state governments and will show that engineers anywhere in the nation have met requirements set by a national group of structural engineers, without state / local / national government rules, etc.  I believe they are going to recommend education and experience requirements in an effort to continually improve the structural engineering profession.



Bruce D. Holcomb, PE, SE

Structural Engineer & Vice President

Butler, Rosenbury & Partners

319 North Main, Suite 200

Springfield, MO 65806




-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis S. Wish, PE [mailto:dennis.wish(--nospam--at)]
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 9:01 AM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)


Bill Polhemus wrote:

Okay, so I get this application in the mail, the so-called SECB asking me to become "certified."

I see that the SECB has a couple of guys on it--Marc Barter and Ron Hamburger--that I actually know. I see that Jeanne Vogelzang, who I recall is the SEAoI secretary or some-such, is the "Executive Director."

So it looks legit.

But what the h*ll is it good for? They want $350 of my hard-earned money--difficult to come by when clients decide they won't pay you. What do I get in return?

Can I call myself an "S.E."? Even without examination?

Or is it just a "fun club" to join, certificate suitable for framing, secret decoder ring type of thing?

Comments are invited. I would like to support such an effort, but there has to be some benefit accruing. I hope you understand.

There is no law or legal requirements that have made changes to the current state and local laws governing the legality of your license. I have not received these documents and as far as I am concerned this is an attempt to advertise an elite group of engineers who will claim to support anyone who joins their "club" as being qualified to practice. In other words, if you don't agree with them, then at some point in the future when they have the support of a couple thousand engineers they can claim support by the community and start to push their desire to change the national certification laws that they proposed a few years ago.
My advice is to give them the brush off. Anyone who supports change like this is doing so through the back door before others have the chance to understand or review the implications.
I am responding to the message obviously making some assumptions along the way since I have not received this notification and assume that the people who sent it to you are California based that it is an attempt to start up a new program in hopes of raising money that SEAOC needs because of their failure to gain new members and maintain their standard of practice on the renewal of funds that they receive from the members that are left.



Dennis S. Wish, PE
California Professional Engineer
Structural Engineering Consultant


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