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Glad you're still with us Harold!!!  I appreciate your
posts.

Paul.
Phoenix, AZ
--- Harold Sprague <spraguehope(--nospam--at)hotmail.com> wrote:

> Warren,
> I did work on a saw mill as a boy many years ago in
> Gravois Mills in 
> Southern Missouri.  And we sawed up a lot of oak,
> and I helped build a barn 
> from sawn oak in about 1962.
> 
> OK, I am a bit older than most on this list... but
> come on!!
> 
> OK, I remember using a slide rule.
> And OK, I went into hiding after a structural
> collapse, and Hamurabi's Law 
> was enforced.
> And OK, I admit that I know that a cubit = 18
> inches.
> And OK, some of my cave paintings were used as
> construction documents.
> 
> Regards,
> Harold Sprague  ....Still ticking
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Foy, Warren" <Warren.Foy(--nospam--at)mhgrp.com>
> >Reply-To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
> >To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
> >Subject: RE: Wood design values for old structure
> >Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 09:25:26 -0400
> >
> >Harold wrote:
> >"100 years ago in Southern Missouri"
> >
> >Harold, is this from personal experience?
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Harold Sprague
> [mailto:spraguehope(--nospam--at)hotmail.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:56 PM
> >To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org
> >Subject: RE: Wood design values for old structure
> >
> >
> >100 years ago in Southern Missouri, they used small
> local lumber mills
> >(Oak
> >of various subspecies), and they also brought
> lumber in by train from
> >big
> >mills.  The big mills that supplied Southern
> Missouri in the early
> >1900's
> >were primarily in Eastern Texas (Southern Yellow
> Pine).
> >
> >First get the species identified by sending a
> sliver to the Forest
> >Products
> >Research Lab.
> >http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/
> >Forest Products Laboratory
> >One Gifford Pinchot Drive
> >Madison, Wisconsin 53726
> >(608) 231-9200
> >
> >The sample is fairly small.  I have had them
> identify lumber for me from
> >all
> >over the world.  They do it for FREE!!  But there
> is a limit on how many
> >
> >they will do for you for free in a given year.
> >
> >Once the species is known, go to the grading rules
> agencies for that
> >particular species (NELMA, NSLB, NLGA, WCLBA, SPIB,
> etc.).  You can
> >visually
> >grade it as good as most professional graders.  I
> would then contact the
> >
> >grading rules agency for an assessment of allowable
> stresses vs. the
> >period
> >of lumber you are grading.  Then knowing the size
> of the timber, the
> >use,
> >and the species, you  can determine the allowable
> stresses.
> >
> >Call the FPL and cruise their web site.  They are a
> wealth of
> >information,
> >and if you pay taxes, they already work for you.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Harold Sprague
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Bruce Holcomb" <bholcomb(--nospam--at)brpae.com>
> > >Reply-To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
> > >To: <seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org>
> > >Subject: Wood design values for old structure
> > >Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 12:38:39 -0500
> > >
> > >We are looking at a building built about 100
> years ago in SW Missouri
> > >and are wondering what strength values we can use
> to analyze the wood
> > >framing.  There is a lot of Oak in this area, so
> the framing may be Oak
> > >(that was once somewhat common), but other likely
> species we might
> > >encounter would be Doug-Fir, Southern Pine, D-F-L
> and S-P-F.  Does
> > >anybody have any values for old wood we can use
> for analyzing the
> > >joists, beams, studs and columns in this old
> structure?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Bruce D. Holcomb, PE, SE
> > >
> > >Structural Engineer & Vice President
> > >
> > >Butler, Rosenbury & Partners
> > >
> > >319 North Main, Suite 200
> > >
> > >Springfield, MO 65806
> > >
> > >417-865-6100
> > >
> > >417-865-6102
> > >
> > >
> >
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