My 5 year old
grandson thinks he's Spiderman...when he's not Dash. Grandkids are
great! Let's keep them safe so they can keep imagining being
superheroes for as long as they can.
-----Original Message----- From: Neil Moore
[mailto:nmoore(--nospam--at)innercite.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 8:04
AM To: seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org; seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org Subject: Re:
stainless steel cable
I really don't care
what the cables look like or what they cost, the loss any child is
prohibitive. Jim Getaz's experience sends me chills.
One of my 3.5 year old grandkids probably can climb the cable.
You tell him don't; he'll go ahead and do it and smile at you the whole
Neil Moore, S.E.
At 06:44 AM 5/25/2005,
To take the opposite tack -
the possibility of children using horizontal cables as a ladder gets thrown
around a lot. Since it became an issue in a parking garage project I
was working on, I had my two nephews test it.
old could not climb the cables in a garage near my house, despite being a
very athletic, sports-oriented kid. The 8-year old could. So
what exactly was being legislated here?
A 3-year old
should not be running around a parking garage unwatched. The danger of
them being hit by a car is several orders of magnitude higher than them
climbing up a wire railing, even if they could. An 8-year old can hurt
themselves if they are dumb enough to climb the railing. They are much
more likely to get hurt riding their skateboard down the ramp. Which
they are also more likely to do, because it is more fun.
actually never read that a child got hurt climbing the wires in a parking
garage. However, the legacy of the short-lived,
seems-like-a-good-idea, BOCA requirement remains. There are several
parking garages in DC that have vertical cables. It makes the
surrounding area look like a prison. (The vertical cables also cost
about 5 times as much as the horizontal wires.)
if this was something that building owners objected to, I would agree with
-----Original Message----- From:
Jim Getaz <jgetaz(--nospam--at)shockeyprecast.com> To:
seaint(--nospam--at)seaint.org Sent: Wed, 25 May 2005 08:09:13 -0400 Subject: Re:
stainless steel cable
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Neil Moore wrote, â€oeWell, Bill, I've got two 3.5 year old grandtwins who
can also do that. The other five grandkids know better. But what
scares the besomething out of me, is the fact that they can use the cables
(and horizontal bars) to climb up and
BOCA had adopted a clause, maybe in the â€˜93 edition, prohibiting rails
that â€oeact as ladders.â€? We were disappointed to see that it was one of
the casualties of the politics combining the three codes into IBC. I am
still hoping that it will return. I know thatâ€(tm)s what I did as a boy,
and my 9-year-old daughter last summer climbed up a handrail-height concrete
barrier three stories up and had just stood on the top when I picked her up
and set her back down on the floor. She has not let us forget that we would
not let her up there.
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