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From: refugio rochin [mailto:fugeeo(--nospam--at)] 
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 12:48 PM
To: seaint(--nospam--at)
Subject: Connections Designing, General Standards? POLL

At the same time, are connections so costly that designing
to the load, versus the member would save so much?

-----/Original Message-----

Slightly off that topic:

Guy I'm reporting to on a current assignment made an interesting
observation the other day.

When I mentioned "saving money on steel fabrication" by optimizing
connection designs, etc., he said "who sees that savings? Contractors
are going to bid by the pound of steel, regardless. Whenever someone
talks about saving money on shop fabrication, etc., if you'll look
closely you'll see its usually a fabricator talking. They're the only
ones who really benefit from all this 'optimizing.' The end-user doesn't
see any of the so-called 'savings' because it never gets that far."

I admit he probably has a point.

(Ducking and covering; I can only imagine the excoriation I'm fixin' to
get from Charley Carter and friends). 

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