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Self-governing associations do have their faults, but
one advantage is that they have to publish annual
financial statements.  They also go after violators
with a vengeance--protecting their turf and getting
fine revenues(these usually don't exceed the costs).
Gary

On 28 Jul 2005 at 22:09, Ray Pixley wrote:

> 
> >So yeah, I can see the PE boards wanting to get more money from
> >Fines.
> 
> That brings to mind a simple test to see if the PE boards are more
> interested in getting PEs to do what they should be doing verses
> having just another revenue stream that they do not have to be
> accountable for to their constituents:
> 
> If it cost more to enforce their regulations, statutes, etc. than they
> collect in fines and fees, then they are probably doing their mission.
> 
> If it costs less than what they are collecting, then its just another
> revenue stream and they are not interested in promoting good practice,
> despite the rhetoric.  They want more violations.  It also encourages
> boards to make the regulations as difficult to comprehend as possible
> and to use intimidation tactics that result in enhancing their profit.
> 
> Ideally budget wise, what they collect should equal what they expend. 
> But its actually better if the voters have to kick in some general tax
> revenue (i.e. property, income, etc.) to make up for the gap between
> collections and revenues.  Voters will do that if they believe their
> interests are being fairly protected by these boards.
> 
> Now what I haven't seen in a board newsletter is a report on what is
> being spent verses what they are collecting.  And its not surprising
> that they don't openly publish this kind of information without having
> to be asked, which means that the charge that they are just another
> tax revenue stream is probably true.
> 
> Perhap after reading this post, they will start publishing such
> information. 
>   But there is a catch: the spending report should be detailed and
>   clear 
> enough to allow the public to audit and identify wasteful spending,
> and in that sense both the taxpayer and the regulated will get closer
> to getting their money's worth.  So if these board members or their
> employees are living high on the hog, that practice will stop and
> violators will be miserable for the right reasons.
> 
> 
> 
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