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Ralph,
I'm with you-graduated in 1961. I bet if you asked one
of the recent graduates to design a 20 storey building
by hand, they wouldn't know where to start.  Graphic
analysis and moment distribution?  How did they design
the Empire State building?
Gary


On 31 Aug 2005 at 0:50, Rhkratzse(--nospam--at)aol.com wrote:

> I realize that I'm the only person on this list who remembers what
> engineering was like in the 1960s, but the mechanics of producing
> calcs., specs., and drawings were SO much more difficult, and the
> physical quality was so much lower.   I emphasize PHYSICAL quality
> because I DO NOT mean engineering quality.   I mean illegible
> calculations (not spread sheets, etc.), actual cut-and-paste and then
> type and mimeograph specifications, and "Xerox" things one page at a
> time, and erasing your way through the tracing.   Hail, I even knew
> architects who still used ink on linen!   Now we have recent graduates
> who can design 100 story high rises over night, complete with
> color-coded working drawings, having analyzed 100 load combinations,
> but the welds fail in an earthquake.    Oops!   Supposedly the guy who
> designed the Seattle Space Needle just stuck 3 of the heaviest WF
> shapes made into a triangle for each leg and checked it with his slide
> rule ... and it's still there!   
> 
> Enuf reminiscing.   
> 
> Wouldn't go back for the world.   :)
> 
> Ralph Hueston Kratz, S.E.
> Richmond CA USA
> 
> In a message dated 8/30/05 9:35:21 PM, chrisw(--nospam--at)skypoint.com writes: >
> That said, I'm not all that certain that the technology doesn't seem
> to > have made across-the-board improvements in engineering
> productivity, > certainly not in the manufacturing areas where I work.
> I've heard a lot > of claims, usually by software developers, but I
> don't see as much > overall impact in particularly improved design
> methodology, lower costs > or shorter design lead times.
> 



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